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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/18891730

While Cinnamon is great for many users, KDE Plasma provides a flexible and powerful alternative, particularly for those who desire a more dynamic and configurable desktop environment.

In this guide, we’ll cover everything you need to know to successfully install KDE Plasma on your Linux Mint 22 system.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Is this advisable? Linux Mint (AFAIK) doesn't do any special work on the Ubuntu KDE packages; I mean, at that point why not use Kubuntu or Debian itself?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

AfaIk, Linux Mint delivers it's own version of apt, specifically some scripts interacting with apt, which does not default to Snap packages for e.g. Firefox, Kubuntu doesn't (can't). Basically, you could also install Kubuntu 24.04 and transform it to Mint 22 with KDE e.g. to have Mint-like behaviour of apt.
Mint has the reputation of being a beginner friendly distribution, Debian doesn't (not isn't).
If one uses Mint and does want to use another DE without reinstalling the OS, after all why not?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

AfaIk, Linux Mint delivers it's own version of apt, specifically some scripts interacting with apt, which does not default to Snap packages for e.g. Firefox, Kubuntu doesn't (can't). Basically, you could also install Kubuntu 24.04 and transform it to Mint 22 with KDE e.g. to have Mint-like behaviour of apt.

Yeah, the snap stuff is annoying. Still ... using a distro with packages it just so happens to inherit from its upstream distro, that it doesn't really maintain ... that's sketchy.

Mint has the reputation of being a beginner friendly distribution, Debian doesn't (not isn't). If one uses Mint and does want to use another DE without reinstalling the OS, after all why not?

Well, I wouldn't describe what's in that article as being more beginner friend than Debian 😅 Especially not the potential impacts on stability guarantees and upgrade quality.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Right, installing a DE is usually not something a direct bloody beginner would/should do. But a beginner who installed Mint, e.g. because of recommendations, has already installed some programs and worked with their system for a while, but now is not confident with Cinnamon DE. For someone like them it's feasible to 'simply' install a different DE e.g. KDE onto their system. (I'd also suggest uninstalling anything GTK related and reinstalling only those packages that one deems useful). As there are no essential differences between Kubuntu and Mint, I don't see the problems here. KDE is in the same sources.list that Mint uses (in the official Ubuntu repos), so there shouldn't be any strange dependency conflicts. Thus it's not going to end up as a Frankenstein system.
Personally, I use Debian btw. 😉, I'd also suggest installing the original, i.e. Debian or LMDE, if one likes the Mint stuff, and get rid of the Ubuntu dependencies. But I consider that basically as a matter of personal taste.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I think it's a bit more frankensystem than you're realizing. Mint does have additional repos (to facilitate distribution of cinnamon, its dependencies, and additional custom software) and package management tools (namely their updater).

http://packages.linuxmint.com/list.php?release=virginia

When you start adding major things outside of their expectations (like a completely different desktop that they don't support) you're asking for trouble. Especially if you outright start removing GTK based stuff because Mint's software is based on GTK.

Mint even used to offer KDE but they stopped doing that to focus on other stuff (presumably to focus on GTK).

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

Anything GTK GUI related is not necessary anymore once you have installed KDE, as you then typically use e.g. Discover for software managing instead of the mint software center.
I assume they stopped having a KDE version, as they then would have to completely rewrite their apps (those for the Mint look and feel) in Qt and supporting two such elementary different versions is to much for one team. Now, as they are delivering a Mate, Cinnamon and XFCE flavour, they can take advantage of them being all GTK2 or GTK3 based.