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Man taking trash to dumpster with gun slips, shoots and kills self accidentally, police say (www.ksat.com)

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A man taking his trash to an apartment dumpster was shot and killed after he slipped while walking and the gun he was carrying went off accidentally, according to San Antonio police.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Hey! So, the outskirts of San Antonio where I used to live definitely had a wildlife problem but most of the hogs here are more interested in garbage and farm fowl than attacking humans. We do have issues with foxes, coyotes, and mountain lions though.

This area from the article is an older part of San Antonio with pretty high crime levels. This is the area where you'd be more likely to feel the need to carry a gun to take out the garbage, but only because other people are carrying guns to take out the garbage.

Where I live now, we used to get somewhat frequent gunshots back when there was a party-house nearby, now it's much more seldom and sounds less... aggressive? When that happens, I just load up the shotgun and wait for about 30 minutes or so (or until the police arrive, if they even bother to come out) to make sure no one is coming into my house to harm me or my family. I'm all for hosting people, as long as they don't try to hurt me or the people I love. (If they come in to rob or steal, they probably need it more than I do, plus that's what insurance is for. No need to go blasting people over something as fleeting as stuff)

Funnily enough, my shotgun was my grandfather's that he used in his oilfields for snakes. I've never shot anything living with it and the worst snake I've seen at my house is a rat snake. My sister, on the other hand, got bit by a water moccasin when she lived out by you.

Houston doesn't fuck around with their wildlife.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Moccasins ain't nothing to mess around with. I assume she's alright and living elsewhere now? Over here we have most of the stuff from southern Louisiana that will kill you plus scorpions and a bunch of other crap.

Appreciate the info. I figured you'd know SA better than I do.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yeah. It took a long fucking time to heal, but she's alright now.

And I know San Antonio like the back of my anus. You name any part of town and I'll tell you a time I got lost trying to get there

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I'm suddenly interested in the story of how you got lost on your way to your anus.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

I tend to go around wiping holes in the ground

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

LiberalGunNut™ here!. I'm very much like you. For one, never shot an animal that wasn't dying horribly. LOL, I can't even bring myself to hunt squirrels. And yes, while we have some serious wildlife around here, I'm far more concerned with the 2-legged sort.

Love what a conservative gun nut, and longtime cop, had to say:

“In the anti-gun Spokane newspaper, internet comments indicated that many people had the clueless idea that Gerlach had shot the man – in the back – to stop the thief from stealing his car. One idiot wrote in defense of doing such, “That ‘inert property’ as you call it represents a significant part of a man’s life. Stealing it is the same as stealing a part of his life. Part of my life is far more important than all of a thief’s life.”

Analyze that statement. The world revolves around this speaker so much that a bit of his life spent earning an expensive object is worth “all of (another man’s) life.” Never forget that, in this country, human life is seen by the courts as having a higher value than what those courts call “mere property,” even if you’re shooting the most incorrigible lifelong thief to keep him from stealing the Hope Diamond. A principle of our law is also that the evil man has the same rights as a good man. Here we have yet another case of a person dangerously confusing “how he thinks things ought to be” with “how things actually are.”

As a rule of thumb, American law does not justify the use of deadly force to protect what the courts have called “mere property.” In the rare jurisdiction that does appear to allow this, ask yourself how the following words would resonate with a jury when uttered by plaintiff’s counsel in closing argument: “Ladies and gentlemen, the defendant has admitted that he killed the deceased over property. How much difference is there in your hearts between the man who kills another to steal that man’s property, and one who kills another to maintain possession of his own? Either way, he ended a human life for mere property!”

― Massad Ayoob, Deadly Force - Understanding Your Right To Self Defense