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I mean, everyone knows that in January it's hot in Australia, and in July it's cold there.

But do Australians call it "winter" in January and "summer" in July? Or does just "winter" imply hot weather and beaches, and "summer" implies ~~winter,~~ eh, i mean, snow sports and wool socks.

And given that, most of the population lives in northern hemisphere, is there a body of dad jokes and culture tropes related to the fact that "we're different", or is it just too cringe and boring. (I realize both could be true on this one.)

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[–] [email protected] 71 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (4 children)

No, summer and winter are reversed in the southern hemisphere.

But more than that, the seasons aren’t even consistent within each hemisphere—the exact beginning and ending dates of each season vary from region to region depending on the local climate.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 4 months ago

As an example, where I live near the equator we have seasons that are only a few weeks long. We alternate between "summer" and "winter". The quotes are because the only real difference in our seasons is how much rain falls since neither the temperature nor the amount of daylight changes much. Winter seasons are cloudy and wet and summer seasons are sunny and dry.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

The concept of 4 seasons itself is very Eurocentric, and leads to the inaccurate belief that the seasons/climate are messy and unpredictable in Australia.

The native aboriginal peoples have their own season system for each region, which much more accurately describes the weather. For example, the aboriginal calendar identifies 7* seasons in Victoria.

*Edit for previously incorrect info which stated there were 6 seasons (different area of Australia)

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

That's actually really interesting, I had no idea. Do you have a link with the page to that image? It got jpeg'd and I'd like to read more.

Edit: thanks for the links all, really appreciate it.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

found it the webpage it appears to have originally come from described it as being the Noongar 6 season calendar so the names on this chart are Noongar words from South Western Australia not from Victoria which is the South East, so maybe theirs are different.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

https://www.csiro.au/en/research/indigenous-science/indigenous-knowledge/calendars

Is some good ones, but it only covers one small part of the country.

Each mob basically has its own calendar, so you’re looking at tens or hundreds for the country. That one above for Victoria is different to my part of Victoria.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 months ago

Yeah if you think about it the idea of 4 seasons permeating culture has more to do with European colonization than anything scientific.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Well, here in Austria we get about a day of skiing less per year since the 2000s.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Also, for the northern hemisphere people, yes, Australia has snow.

[–] waggz 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

also for Americans, Austria is not Australia

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

So was that a comment from an Austrian thinking the Australian posts was about Austria? Or was that an Australian who misspelled their country’s name? Or was that an Austrian who knew the post was about Australia, but they just wanted to talk about Austria?