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  • Trump and his supporters are slamming Joe Biden for quitting the race and endorsing Kamala Harris. 
  • Some members of MAGA world are bemoaning the millions of dollars spent running against Joe Biden.
  • Biden's withdrawal also means Trump is now the oldest candidate in the presidential race.
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[–] [email protected] 293 points 4 months ago (16 children)

Incidentally, there's a bunch of people on Lemmy really mad that they can't tell everyone not to vote for Biden anymore. They'll tell us not to vote for whoever is going to be his replacement though.

[–] [email protected] 129 points 4 months ago (7 children)

Eh, their new dissent orders seem to be "Biden can't appoint Harris! I didn't vote for her!" which, of course, displays a total lack of knowledge about what primaries are and what the DNC is.

They didn't want Biden to run, and now they mysteriously don't want the person most of the party supports to run either.

[–] [email protected] 88 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Right? It’s almost as if they’ve never been approaching any of this in good faith.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

You're telling me someone would just go on the internet an lie?

It's a massive social hub with influence on all the worlds information. What possible motivation could someone have try to influence people by faking accounts and make bad faith arguments?

Sorry, it just doesn't add up. Now, you've interrupted me hitting myself in the head repeatedly with a hammer and this brain damageisnthgomr e

[–] [email protected] 44 points 4 months ago

Almost like they want Trump to win, hmmmmmm

[–] [email protected] 28 points 4 months ago

I'm seeing a lot of "wHat AbOuT A pRimArY" already from the usual bad actors.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

The uptick in those types of accounts makes this site start to feel like 2016 reddit 😂. Lemmy has become large enough to justify investment of bots to brigade and astroturf; we've made it!

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 months ago

I've seen iterations of "the Democrats stabbed Biden in the back!" too many times on here over the past 24 hours for it to be a coincidence

[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 months ago

displays a total lack of knowledge

Well we are talking about right wingers here, kinda par for the course. :P

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[–] [email protected] 80 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (19 children)

You know what I’m not seeing?

ANY of these accounts that were so relentless in their criticism of Biden and how he needed to step down because otherwise the Democrats would lose, being simply happy about this.

ALL of the tentative happiness about Harris maybe being a stronger candidate than Biden was, is coming from people who were either neutral or defending Biden before. The people who were giving a firehose of criticism to Biden and demanding that it was MANDATORY for him to step down, for the good of the Democrats and the country, have for the most part fallen silent, and a whole new grouping has arisen to give criticism to Harris and say that as good progressives they could never vote for a cop.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I was one of them and now am elated to vote for a non-geriatric piece of shit and a woman.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 months ago
[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 months ago (2 children)

ANY of these accounts that were so relentless in their criticism of Biden and how he needed to step down because otherwise the Democrats would lose, being simply happy about this.

Really? I've seen plenty of posts like that. Stuff like "Donated to the democratic party to show this was necessary", "Finally, we can safely roast Trump for being old and senile", "I don't care who the replacement is, thank god he's out".

There are some shit-stirrers, but they seem to be the minority.

Disclaimer: I am not American, cannot vote or donate, am heavily invested in the election due to the ramifications on Ukraine.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I'm happy AF.

Biden's legacy is secure. He can rest easy as the man who beat back the right-wing fascist autocracy and led the country to elect the first female president. 🤞

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Even though I agree with you I would suggest not pushing the first woman president angle. There's already plenty of dumbasses saying that she shouldn't be elected because she's a woman, including 2 of my women coworkers. One is a republican and the other a Democrat, both boomers too.

Let's just push the competent angle.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago (6 children)

Yeah, they can't take two seconds to enjoy the victory they wanted. They have to move on to the next thing to bitch and moan about.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 4 months ago (3 children)

They didn’t want Biden to step down. They wanted him running against Trump and losing.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Pretty much. That way when Trump won, they could say "see? We told you so!"

Much more important than them or people they might care about getting marched into camps.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That's not true! I danced a jig when we found out. I was voting against Trump but now I am voting for Harris.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 months ago

Several others are not. Including a person who has been posting anti-Biden articles in this community for months, who has now switched to anti-Harris articles.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Wasn't rabid before, but I was one of those for Biden stepping down in favor of Kamala. I just wanted a strong voice that was capable of at least countering Trump's endless spew of lies. But I have noticed those that are now bashing Kamala were also telling people not to vote for Biden.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

Bots gonna bot

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

They’re waiting on the next talking points from their Russian overlords. Give it a day or so and they’ll be back with some new, yet all the same, arguments.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (2 children)

You know my history regarding Biden. Go on, check my history since Biden did the right thing and dropped out. I'm still posting and not so much as an unkind word about Harris. Biden did the right thing. The party did the right thing. I'm overjoyed that for the first fucking time in far too goddamned long, Democrats listened instead of digging in their heels and demanding votes, every pore reeking of entitled paternalist condescension.

You were wrong. Your shitty candidate bowed out like you didn't want him to, and just look. The party has very much gotten in line behind Kamala. The predicted chaos and infighting hasn't happened. She's had the best fundraising in US history simply by being the understudy who was present at the time and not being Biden.

The people who were giving a firehose of criticism to Biden and demanding that it was MANDATORY for him to step down, for the good of the Democrats and the country, have for the most part fallen silent

Have you considered that it's because they're finally satisfied? At least for now? Harris is a reasonable compromise candidate. Biden wasn't, and he listened to reason and bowed out. We're better for it.

a whole new grouping has arisen to give criticism to Harris and say that as good progressives they could never vote for a cop.

Democrats are a big tent. Some of us don't like genocide. Some of us don't like cops. Some of us don't like either. Harris is in a better position to distance herself from past actions than Biden was about ongoing actions.

She ran on full cannabis legalization in 2020 and was a sponsor of the Justice in Policing Act of 2020. It ain't gonna stick.

I'm glad Biden dropped out.

Are you?

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Idk how this season is going to end but the writers have definitely been building toward something.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 4 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 31 points 4 months ago (2 children)

You'd think so, but they already have moved on to "don't vote for Harris" posts.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I actually was curious about it, so I looked over his posts, and it's all over the place. Pro-Marianne Williamson, anti-Nancy Pelosi, pro-open convention and by implication anti-"coronation", criticizing Harris for not being LBGTQ friendly enough...

Actually. You know what, it's not really all that all over the place. 🙂 It's just a little bit subtle with the consistent anti-Harris / anti-Democrat message, from different angles, enough so that I didn't really pick up on it until I started typing them out.

Also I notice Marianne Williamson is starting to edge out Cornel West as the nonsensical candidate to support instead of the candidate that might be able to win the election

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago

Why am I not surprised....

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Already happening. They're testing the waters to see what's going to stick.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 23 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I just ran into them trying to promote Jill stein in another thread lol

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (2 children)
[–] riskable 8 points 4 months ago

He wormed his own way out.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It's pretty hard to argue in favor of the brain worms guy.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

To be fair, though, even with literal brain damage, he's still not the worst candidate on the ballot.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago

A steaming pile of Biden's dogs shit would be a better candidate than Dementia Don, the racist rapist with 34 felonies that can't complete a coherent sentence.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 months ago (1 children)

And her past as a prosecutor, and the fact that she lost the primary 4 years ago, and her laugh. In addition to yours, that's all I've seen so far. They ran "Heels up Harris" into the ground several years ago, but I do think it will make a return at some point. It was a shit insult but so are the others they're trying to use.

Really all they have is a terrible legal gambit to try to keep her off ballots. That one is laughably bad. No deadlines have passed. The idiot at the front of the House said something stupid. I would hammer that until election day. "The Republicans did their best to keep us off the ballot because they hate freedom and democracy. They don't want you to have a choice. And Trump endorsed Harris. Here's the check."

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

She also said something hard to understand about coconuts. Don't forget that one. That means something or other.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago

Now they're panicking and can't decide if she's unlikable or if she's the "whacky aunt" entertaining everyone at the barbecue.

I went to the other place to check TFGs meltdown tweets or truths or turds or whatever they call them and I was not disappointed. He is asking for his money back because the attack ads they've purchased were against Joe.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

Oh yeah I've been called a fascist already because I said I'd vote for Harris and that while she isn't the best candidate she will be leagues better than Biden imo.

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