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Proton Mail goes AI, security-focused userbase goes ‘what on earth’ (pivot-to-ai.com)

submitted 1 month ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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we appear to be the first to write up the outrage coherently too. much thanks to the illustrious @self

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

sure. because domains can be bought, not only temporarily leased.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Not sure why that's relevant. There are domains that have been in use by the same owner for 39 years now.
That's longer than anything I've ever owned.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

so what happens with the domain when the owner dies?

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I don’t know anyone who has “lost” a domain (besides incompetence). You can be pedantic if you like, but domain ownership allows you to transfer everything to wherever and no one in a realistic example can take it away from you.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

sure. tell that to people who used the .af domains; or learn more about shenanigans with the various oceanian TLDs, or who owns the .io domain, and why.

the fact is that you don't own the domain name, and it's always one missed card payment (or registrar changing hands and losing your card data) from being lost, and then your best chance is arbitrage.

it's one of these things that you have to understand when you start self-hosting anything.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

or registrar changing hands

or registrar "forgetting" renewal settings.. conveniently soon after they introduced new at-checkout products

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

you’ve never heard of a single example of anyone losing a domain due to legal maneuvering, trusting the wrong TLD (ie a bunch of lgbt folks losing their domains when the TLD’s administrating country decided not to give them service), or a plain ol registrar fuckup?

you’re far too inexperienced to be opining on self-hosting email, then