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CrowdStrike broke Debian and Rocky Linux months ago, but no one noticed (www.neowin.net)

submitted 4 months ago by [email protected] to c/linux

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A widespread Blue Screen of Death (BSOD) issue on Windows PCs disrupted operations across various sectors, notably impacting airlines, banks, and healthcare providers. The issue was caused by a problematic channel file delivered via an update from the popular cybersecurity service provider, CrowdStrike. CrowdStrike confirmed that this crash did not impact Mac or Linux PCs.

It turns out that similar problems have been occurring for months without much awareness, despite the fact that many may view this as an isolated incident. Users of Debian and Rocky Linux also experienced significant disruptions as a result of CrowdStrike updates, raising serious concerns about the company's software update and testing procedures. These occurrences highlight potential risks for customers who rely on their products daily.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (5 children)

I'm not an expert in any sense.

But it was always my impression that Ubuntu and Debian were what you use on personal machines, while RHEL is the baseline standard for professional servers.

Is that not accurate? CrowdStrike's target customer seems to be the sort of company that would insist on using RHEL for the enterprise features.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

That is not accurate.

RedHat is the standard for high-budget American corps.
Rocky and similar for low-budget American orgs
Ubuntu Server has a large following with developers who think they don't need sysadmins.
Debian Stable is more popular with European orgs that aren't incentivized by US government contracts to go with Redhat. It is much more stable than Ubuntu, has been more reliable in its support promises than Redhat, and doesn't suffer from the NIH syndrome that infects both.
Ubuntu is popular with home users
Debian Testing is good for workstations and personal machines that need to be a bit more current
Debian Unstable for people who like Debian but want to live on the bleeding edge

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

The enterprise systems I see are only certified on RHEL and SUSE, debian is not even a contender. Obviously Americans typically choose Rhel and europe goes for SUSE.

Debian doesn sell enterprise support.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I've been using Linux professionally for 15 years. It's been Debian or Ubuntu almost everywhere I have been. Although that might be regional.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Which region, if you don't mind me asking?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

South of Sweden

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

What's it like living there? I apologize for the off-topic question but I'm fascinated by the Nordic States in comparison to my experience growing up and adulting in the US. I'm envious of your higher quality of life index being so high in those countries.

I don't know where I'm going with this... just wanted to start a drunken conversation.

After doing a quick search I found we're not too far behind you (two rankings lower) but I still like to hear from actual people how they view their govt., and how they're helping (if at all).

[–] Scoopta 10 points 4 months ago

A lot of companies run Debian and Debian based distros, Google on their servers for a start

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Canonical and Debian both target the professional server space. I've spent pretty much my entire career working on Debian-based distros.

Hell, the one company I worked for that I expected to use RHEL used Ubuntu for everything, so 🤷‍♂️.

[–] LeFantome 4 points 4 months ago

This is accurate.

There is another reply that says “this is not accurate” that includes true information to back you up.

For infrastructure, RHEL is the gold standard for large companies with a budget. The RHEL customer-base probably overlaps almost completely with CrowdStrike.

RHEL imitators are popular with people that value cost savings more than the corporate backing ( beyond individual cases, this DOES NOT describe the enterprise space ).

Ubuntu is very popular with developers in companies of all sizes. Outside of maybe being the base for containers, this is not how “infrastructure” choices are made though.

Debian is popular with Linux enthusiasts and, where they have influence, businesses may use that. In enterprise environments, it is less likely this group is the one making the decisions. Again though, individual cases exist.