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Mistral isn't trained on copy righted data. It's based off selective databases that were open use. This article in general is full of false information. But I suppose most people only read the headlines.
https://huggingface.co/mistralai/Mistral-7B-v0.1/discussions/8#6527a6fca6eaf92e6c26fa59
The "open web" is full of copyrighted material.
We had a social contract!
but it's apache2 sega! tooooootes freebies!
was this incorrect? https://www.patronus.ai/blog/introducing-copyright-catcher
Yes, they are incorrect:
https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2023/07/why-ai-detectors-think-the-us-constitution-was-written-by-ai/
if you're not gonna read the fucken thing then fuck off.
I did read the thing, then provided an article explaining why detecting copyrighted material / determining if something is written by AI is very inaccurate.
Perhaps take your own advice to "read the fucken thing" next time instead of making yourself look like an idiot. Though I doubt you've ever heard of "better to stay silent and let them think you the fool than to speak and remove all doubt".
Btw, I even recall that Ars specifically covered the company you linked to in a separate article as well. I'd be glad to provide it once you've come to your senses and want to discuss things like an adult.
did you know that a lesser-known side effect of the infinite monkeys approach is that they will produce whole sections of copyright content abso-dupo-lutely by accident? wild, I know! totes coinkeedink!
jesus fucking christ you must be a fucking terrible person to work with
I've seen toddlers throw more mature tantrums
she wrote harry potter with an llm, didn't she?
I'm too old to discuss against bad faith arguments.
Especially with people who won't read the information I provide them showing their initial information was wrong.
One is a company that has something to sell, the other an article with citations showing why it's not easy to determine what percentage of a data set is infringing on copyright, or whether exact reproduction via "fishing expedition" prompting is a useful metric to determine if unauthorized copyright was used in training.
The dumbest take though is attacking Mistral of all LLMs, even though it's on an Apache 2.0 license.
I've read the article you've posted: it does not refute the fucking datapoint provided, it literally DOES NOT EVEN MENTION MISTRAL AT ALL.
so all I can tell you is to take your pearlclutching tantrum bullshit and please fuck off already
god these weird little fuckers’ ability to fill a thread with garbage is fucking notable isn’t it? something about loving LLMs makes you act like an LLM. how depressing for them.
Meta:
"I said good day, sir. good day!" [walks through revolving door]
I bet they go to react conferences
snrk
brava.
To think that when sneer club/techtakes migrated to lemmy, I was pretty sure we would not be getting a lot of incidental traffic to the communities. Just about as wrong as you can be.
previously we were r/SneerClub and r/TechTakes on Reddit. we’ve also got a local archive of old r/SneerClub posts which I’m currently redesigning to fix the, ah, everything about its web design
the dorks that come in and dumbpost are fun for the first few interactions, but, damn, they get annoying fast
chatgpt gets it
you should speak to a physicist, they might be able to find a way your density can contribute to science
"exact percentage"
just fuck right off. wasting my fucken time.
You're the one who linked to an exact percentage, not me. Have a good day.
no, you utter fucking clown. they're literally posting to take the piss out of you, the only person in the room who isn't getting that everyone is laughing at them, not with them
re-read your chatgpt response and think about whether the percentages in my original link could be too high or too low.
trick question everyone knows this late on a friday you want a body high for that nice mellow low feeling
but, like, really think this time. at this point i'm not arguing with you, i'm trying to help you.
you're conflating "detecting ai text" with "detecting an ai trained on copyrighted material"
send the relevant article or shut up
Ignoring the logical inconsistency you just spouted for a moment (can't tell if it's written by AI but knows it used copyrighted material? Do you not hear yourself?), you do realize Mistral is released under the Apache 2.0 license, a highly permissive scheme that has no restrictions on use or reproduction beyond attribution, right?
I think it's clear you're arguing in bad faith however with no intention of changing your misinformed opinion at this point. Perhaps you'd enjoy an echo chamber like the "fuckai" Lemmy instance.
wait a minute… there’s another “fuck ai” instance and they’ve already told you to go fuck yourself?
I wonder if they want to be friends
have seen one on lemmy.world. it's kinda the dancing baby version of the stubsack and techtakes tho from what I can tell
aw, it’s only a community? that’s what I get for expecting anything but garbage from Oscar the Grouch I suppose
"I love trash, baka!"
— Asuka the Grouch
holy shit you really are quite dumb. the fuck is wrong with you?
actually don’t answer that
You are quite dumb.
the reading comprehension of a llm and the contextual capacity of a gnat