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I’m talking about this sort of thing. Like clearly I wouldn’t want someone to see that on my phone in the office or when I’m sat on a bus.

However there seems be a lot of these that aren’t filtered out by nsfw settings, when a similar picture of a woman would be, so it seems this is a deliberate feature I might not be understanding.

Discuss.

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[–] [email protected] -3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That's entirely my whole point!

Lemmy has no way of knowing that. Moderators have no way of knowing that.

The only one capable of deciding what is suitable for your current specific environment is you!

It's impossible to define a one size fits all NSFW tag, and it shouldn't be up to the content provider to do so.

What to browse and when is and should be entirely the responsibility of the user accessing the content.

If you get caught browsing pictures that are unsuitable for whatever your current environment is, that's on you for browsing a site that might have those pictures, and on no one else.

Accept your responsibility and don't try to switch the blame.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Then nothing here on Lemmy should have an NSFW tag at all. But you know that doesn't work. Because you can have a feed that's completely fine and then scroll randomly and find a bunch of porn posts back to back. If you are posting content to a platform you are responsible for that content and what it shows. That's literally why we have any tags.

This is like arguing that because it's legal to show graphic content of war or similar on the news it should be allowed with no warning on any website. There's underaged people everywhere on the internet. Sites that have graphic content as the main content censor accordingly. Why is Lemmy any different?

[–] [email protected] -3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Then nothing here on Lemmy should have an NSFW tag at all.

Yes, exactly, now you're getting it!

But you know that doesn't work.

Oh, no, you actually don't. You actually think you're making a point. 😞

Because you can have a feed that's completely fine and then scroll randomly and find a bunch of porn posts back to back.

Yeah, that's how lemmy works. And the internet as a whole, really, except for small pockets of it.

Which is why it's up to you to be aware of which sites are suitable for your current environment and which are not, and have the fucking self control and patience to wait until you're in a suitable environment to browse the ones that aren't.

If you are posting content to a platform you are responsible for that content and what it shows.

Sure, but I can't be responsible for it being suitable or not in your current particular environment because there's no objective way for me to know what is and isn't suitable for you in your current specific circumstances.

“NSFW” is entirely subjective, it changes from person to person, from place to place, and from minute to minute depending on each user's current circumstances, and expecting the poster to predict all of these possibilities is absurd, profoundly stupid, and outright disingenuous.

The only person who knows what might be suitable in YOUR current particular environment is YOU. It's your fucking responsibility to know which sites might contain something that you'd consider unsuitable and avoid them until you're in and environment where they'll be suitable.

Don't try to shift the blame and responsibility for YOUR lack of self control onto the people who're giving you free content and who have no possible way of knowing that you might find it unsuitable at a certain specific point in space and time.

This is like arguing that because it's legal to show graphic content of war or similar on the news it should be allowed with no warning on any website.

Yes. And it should be allowed, that's what legal fucking means! (And even if it isn't legal in your particular shithole there's probably some other where it is, so good luck trying to enforce that.)

If some sites decide to not allow it, that's perfectly fine (in lemmy's particular case it's up to the instances, I believe, and some might leave it to the communities), but it's up to YOU to keep up with which ones do allow content you might consider unsuitable and which ones don't.

Sure, some might give you warnings for specific kinds of content as a courtesy, but you really have no way of knowing if their particular definitions of “NSFW” match yours because it's an entirely subjective issue in which it's impossible to reach a consensus, so it's still up to you to check and make sure.

There's underaged people everywhere on the internet.

Well, that's up to their legal guardians. I'm certainly not their nanny, and neither are the lemmy admins, moderators, or posters. You really seem obsessed with shifting your responsibilities onto unrelated third parties, you should probably have that looked at.

Sites that have graphic content as the main content censor accordingly.

No they don't. Have you ever visited a porn site..?

Why is Lemmy any different?

It's not, that's the point. Which is why you should treat it like any other site that might contain “NSFW” content AND NOT FUCKING USE IT AT WORK! Fuck. It's not fucking rocket surgery. 🤦‍♂️

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I really want to know - what is this rocket surgery you keep referring to?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

A play on words, a mixed metaphor combining "rocket science" and "brain surgery", both of which are colloquially used to refer to something very difficult. Therefore, saying that something “is not rocket surgery” is meant to imply that said thing is rather easy to do, and doesn't require any specialized learning or training.

In any case, it shouldn't be rocket surgery to understand the meaning here by the context alone even if you've never heard the phrases “it's not rocket science” or “it's not brain surgery”, but since we seem to be dealing with people, for lack of a better term, incapable of understanding the extremely simple concept of not browsing sites which might contain content unsuitable for work while at work, maybe it turns out that it is in fact as hard as rocket surgery for you lot, but in that case you should be asking your legal guardians, not random strangers on the internet.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 months ago

Here's what you need to do: navigate to your settings. Tick "show NSFW content" untick "blur NSFW content" and stop getting cross with those of us that use that feature. Simple. You choose your view, we choose ours. Let those of use who want to use the feature use it in peace. It's YOUR responsibility to curate the feed you want, after all, as you keep angrily telling the rest of us.