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[โ€“] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Islam used to be the forefront of scientific and mathematical discovery.

No, Islamic COUNTRIES did. They didn't achieve excellence in science because Islam benefitted science.

They achieved excellence in science compared to Christian countries in large part because their religious authority figures didn't stand in the way anywhere near as much. Not because religion helped.

Believing in god have nothing to do with science

Not true. They are polar opposites. That's why scientists are disproportionately atheist and agnostic: the evidence based mode of thinking employed in science doesn't mix with the superstitious and unquestioningly convinced thinking of religion without some SERIOUS cognitive dissonance.

it's that irrational thought that make us human

No. That's not being human, that's being brainwashed and/or obedient to authority.

You're right that it's irrational and that irrationality is an inherent part of being human, but the SPECIFIC irrationality of religion is learned and enforced, NOT inherent.

[โ€“] [email protected] -2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

No, Islamic COUNTRIES did. They didn't achieve excellence in science because Islam benefitted science.

No one claiming it is.

They achieved excellence in science compared to Christian countries in large part because their religious authority figures didn't stand in the way anywhere near as much, not because religion helped.

Not sure how much difference is by changing "Islam" to "Islamic countries", because the fact still remain that Muslim make scientific discovery and excel in mathematics despite being religious. Again, no one claiming Islam benefitted science.

Not true. They are polar opposites.

You just contradicted your last point. Also science are not religion, how can an apple be polar opposite to orange? One can believe in santa clause and ghost while excel in science. It's not mutually exclusive.

That's why scientists are disproportionately atheist and agnostic: the evidence based mode of thinking employed in science doesn't mix with the superstitious and unquestioningly convinced thinking of religion without some SERIOUS cognitive dissonance.

Science are a broad subject, unless they purposely went and look for god, which they wouldn't find, there's like a huge load of subject that doesn't have anything to do with god. Also your impression of religion is like, wrong lol. There's more to religion than just praising god.

No. That's not being human, that's being brainwashed and/or obedient to authority.

See? Human ARE irrational.