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It doesn't say what was changed but that makes it a great price again.

It also really messes up the pricing between the 3 RWD which doesn't qualify and the AWD that does since it's only a 1k difference now. I wonder if we'll see them lower the RWD or potentially raise the AWD price?

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 6 months ago (3 children)

If you wanna buy a car made by a company that just paid a $55billion bonus to one of the biggest asshats in the world, this is your chance.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

Not to mention, the board are definitely not independent. ~~How Musk isn't in jail for securities fraud is beyond me.~~ Just kidding. We all know why. He's rich and Republican. Fuck this asshat, and every company he owns. Hopefully ~~Blue Origin and~~ other firms supplant Space X.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

I'm a Blue Origin hater, too. They pretend to be an old space prime by buying their way into a market but not having done anything. They don't have the drive, efficiency, or fun redeeming qualities of startups.

For rockets, I would rather see Stoke pull off Nova and Rocket Lab build Neutron.

For space stations, I'm rooting for Vast and Gravitics.

For space tugs, go Impulse.

For moon landers, BO copied SpaceX's homework, so go Intuitive Machines and Astrobotic.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Thanks for the list of alternatives! I was just throwing Blue Origin out there because it's a name other than Space X. I'm honestly not nearly as in-the-loop as I should be on these things.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

I mean... I want Blue Origin, and all the other new launch providers to succeed, but Blue Origin was founded in 2000 and in 24 years has not reached orbit. I have a feeling it's going to be a long time before they exceed F9 on payload cost to orbit / cadence, and Starship might be operational in expendable mode within a few more test launches, this year.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

That was just an example. I just want anyone else to succeed.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

Whatever you think about SpaceX, were ultimately doomed if none of the others get to their level. We really do need more than one semi/fully reusable launch provider.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Rocket Lab, Stoke, and Relativity are all trying!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

I hadn't heard of Stoke, one more to follow now, thanks!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago
[–] Fisherswamp 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I didn't think he was paid yet, the shareholders approved it but it has to go back to court

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

That is correct. The law firm who challenged it in the first place is saying this has no bearing on the ruling and will submit their updated brief or whatever its called on Friday. Tesla is saying the new vote addressed the concerns laid out by the judge and should therefore invalidate the ruling.

Edit: IANAL this is not lawyer speak, just my understanding of what's happening

Edit: it's also stock, not money, and he can't use it for 5 years. So 5 years from now everyone can all bitch and complain about how it's $50 billion, or $5 billion as everyone thinks Tesla is going to collapse, or $150 billion if they pull off a miracle.