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[–] [email protected] 70 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Cohen got jail time for this crime.

[–] [email protected] 69 points 5 months ago (3 children)

This needs to be brought up every damned time this subject comes up. Cohen served time for the exact same crime - so what argument is there that Trump shouldn't?

[–] [email protected] 23 points 5 months ago (1 children)

so what argument is there that Trump shouldn't?

The American justice system has been successfully boiled down to a pay to play system and it's unfair to not let other rich people go for more serious crimes, but not Trump .

I mean I don't think they would be honest enough to run with that, but it's the only argument I can think of that would be based on an unfortunate truth.

Everyone consciously or subconsciously knows the justice system works differently for different classes. The only reason anyone who leans right actually believes it could be a "witch hunt" is because no one has an iota of faith in the justice system. Sending a "billionaire" to jail is so rare that the possibility of it happening seems suspicious.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

I completely agree. I asked what argument there was that he shouldn't, not that he wouldn't.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It takes a lot of balls to send a former and possibly future president to prison. Way more balls than sending his lackay.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Paraphrasing, "We choose to send Trump to prison, not because it is easy, but because it is hard."

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

I choose to send Trump to prison, not because I'm easy, but because I'm hard.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

Something something Trumps a jelly donut

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Cohen didn't need a secret service detail.

The Guardian are reporting it is unlikely he will see jail time

Edit: it's not a disagree button, it's being widely reported he is unlikely to see jail time. that doesn't mean i think he shouldn't see jail time

[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Everyone is reporting he won't see jail time, which in my view is giving the court a pass on giving him a light sentence.

In my opinion, Trump gained so much, and could gain so much from a repeat offense, that jail is the only compelling punishment for him. He is unrepentant, and would do it again in a heartbeat.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

You are correct, but nevertheless, a court so cowardly they cannot hold him accountable for blatant violations of court orders will not jail him either.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

He could never go to a traditional jail, not with the amount of classified information he was exposed to.

He would need a separate area of Leavenworth with no interaction with other humans except the guard and secret service detail unfortunately assigned to him.

Then he has hell to look forward to.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Pretty sure the secret service would be the guards, I doubt "regular" confinement officers would be trusted in that situation.

They'd have to either train a special detail, or get applicants from current CO's to join the secret service.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 5 months ago (1 children)

100%, how is this not more significant when people guess whether or not Trump will serve time? Cohen got jail time for this, and he turned himself in, and cooperated.

Trump did nothing redeeming, and he was the guy giving the orders, how is it even conceivable that Trump should be punished less?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Cohen doesn't have a cult of dimwits willing to betray every value they claim to have in order to vote for him, tho.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

And a stacked supreme court in his favor

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

He did not. Cohen pleaded guilty to 5 counts of tax evasion (class B felony), one count of making false statements to a federally insured bank (class C felony), one count of causing an unlawful corporate contribution (class D felony) , one count of making an excessive campaign contribution (class D felony).

https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/michael-cohen-pleads-guilty-manhattan-federal-court-eight-counts-including-criminal-tax

Trump was convicted of 34 counts of falsifying business records (class E felony).