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[–] [email protected] 91 points 7 months ago (4 children)

This is what Mozilla should have done a LONG time ago - focussed on browser features, ease of use, compatibility and speed. Make a better browser if you want to win a browser war.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Maybe they should, but focusing on adding new features endlessly is how we ended up with this state of internet browsers. The most complex app running on a desktop are too big, it's basically impossible to create a new one. (Yes you can fork but that's just adding toppings to ice cream). The browser war ends only one way.

If we break up the do-everything application into significant parts then a healthy "war" can exist. Why does a browser need to play video, you already have an app for that.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I definitely don’t want them to continually add more feature cruft. When I said “focussed on features” I simply meant “make sure what they’ve got is second to none”.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

Agreed, really hoping they stick to refocusing on the browser.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Forcing useless features or features that are useless to most users is more or less what windows is doing. Why the double standars?

Especially when Firefox could have included those features as optional modules (even as preinstalled extensions) that we could simply remove if we dont want them?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

How are they being forced upon you?

[–] [email protected] -4 points 7 months ago (3 children)

They are adding them as features to the browser, making it heavier and slower, instead of adding them as optional extensions so that they are only there for the ones who wish them.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago

How do you know the features are making the browser slower?

How are you quantifying the increase in weight?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago

Just disable them. It's not like unused code paths consume resources usually.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

They are adding them as features to the browser, making it heavier and slower, instead of adding them as optional extensions so that they are only there for the ones who wish them.

Whoa, you've already seen the features and already know how they are implemented? Tell me, what's the future like?

[–] [email protected] -4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

I definitely don’t believe Mozilla should continue to add features. But I like them focussing on the ones they’ve got.

Edit: Changed this comment to better reflect what I actually meant.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It might be me and in that case i apologize

...focussed on browser features, ease of use ...

It just sounds like you think its good that they added all these featueas

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It's not you. It's ridiculous that they're this indignant.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

My apologies. I definitely wasn’t meaning to come across indignant. I guess it’s just one of those things of things sounding perfectly clear in your head and not perfectly clear in the receiver’s ear. Hope you have a good day going forward.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

If that's what you're trying to express then I kind of feel like you miswrote your comment. You want them to focus on browser features but not continue to add features? You don't feel like there's any room for confusion there?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

I loved the suckless user interface of Firefox. Vivaldi? Chrome? Arc? They suck