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[–] [email protected] 81 points 6 months ago (8 children)

There has never been an explanation of how a person who is a known rapist, known liar, known fraudster, known thief of classified documents, known seller of information which got operatives killed, is allowed to run for office. It defies explanation.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

I have an explanation:

Propaganda works really well.

The things you listed are what someone on the left thinks of Trump.

Someone who is: Tough on Crime™, Fights for Liberty™, Cares for Children™, a Successful Business Man™, Fights Wokeness™, Highly Intelligent™, Protects Democracy™, and Fights for Christianity™, is what those on the right are made to believe Trump is.

Propagandists are why Trump will win again...

I hate propagandists with every fiber of my being.

Not only do they give cover to this piece of shit, they make the right feel as if WE are oppressing and attacking them! They literally put us all in danger by making the right feel threatened by our existence.

This is NOT the same as us saying POLITICIANS on the right putting us in actual danger and actually oppressing us... One is saying Joe schmoe liberal is the danger, the other is saying Mitch Mcfuckbag in the Senate is a danger to us all.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Someone who is: Tough on Crime™, Fights for Liberty™, Cares for Children™, a Successful Business Man™, Fights Wokeness™, Highly Intelligent™, Protects Democracy™, and Fights for Christianity™, is what those on the right are made to believe Trump is.

Even though each and every one of those things is a provably blatant lie.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Protects Democracy™

That's one that I don't think right-wingers believe for a moment or care in the slightest about.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

"The Greeks were a bunch of woke gays anyway, good riddance" is what a Republican might say if they knew the Greeks invented democracy.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I mean...none of those things are disqualifying for running for office, even if he were convicted of any crimes related to them, which he hasn't been. Trump is a piece of shit, but yes he has a right to run for office. Now why people would still vote for him despite all that, is much more mysterious.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

he has a right to run for office.

The Republican party has allowed him to be their candidate for president.

They absolutely could choose to prevent him from having that role if they wanted to.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

And they don't want that. Trump is extremely popular within the party. Not sure your point.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

He may be popular to some of them, but he's also turned the party into a cult of personality that has abandoned most of what it used to claim to believe in.

When he dies (or loses his ability to attract a crowd), the party will be a husk of its former self. They'll have abandoned their principles which attracted fiscal conservatives in the past, and won't have their cult leader to rally around.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The concept of AI weaponized mass propaganda on social media makes it less mysterious.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

They were lost long before AI was unleashed on them, get it right.

[–] silasmariner 4 points 6 months ago (2 children)

AI has been employed in Facebook marketing for over a decade... LLMs are just the latest face of AI, not the full body of it...

[–] [email protected] -3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, you don't know what AI is

[–] silasmariner 3 points 6 months ago

Cool, what's the totally unambiguous meaning of AI that you have mastery of, m'boy? And why do other people not agree with you? Words mean more than just what you want them to mean

[–] [email protected] -5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Wow, you couldn’t have put more FUD into that comment even if you tried

[–] silasmariner 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I'm just saying 'AI' has been around for, like, 60 years in one form or another. Sorry you've only just heard of it

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] silasmariner 1 points 6 months ago

Not actually an insane take tbf

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Republicans see whatever they want in their candidates. They even bend to them. I mean "who here has never paid for a prostitute?" Is now something they say to defend Trump. There are no values, their foundation is nothing but their own reflections, and there is no meeting them in the middle, they just move the goal post (which pretty much makes Democrats enablers).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

They even bend to them. I mean "who here has never paid for a prostitute?" Is now something they say to defend Trump.

My favorite was when they started chanting "Real men wear diapers!" when it was revealed in court that Donald shits himself and has to wear a diaper.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I think the issue is, if we were to make laws saying you cant run for president if you are convicted of a crime or suspected or whatever, it would give incentives to politicians to try to frame or imprison their political rivals. Then there are things like our drug laws that disproportionately target certain groups. All those people would be barred from running too.

It's definitely an issue that needs to be resolved. One of so many....please help

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Democrats vote for candidates they love; Republicans vote for a party they love.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Republicans vote for who is going to do the most damage to America and "own the libs"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Democrats vote for candidates they love

Love? For me that's rare. It's usually me voting for the lesser of two evils.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

And that’s why democrat candidates struggle to maintain voters. There are very few lovable democrats, so they don’t get votes. With republicans, it doesn’t matter if the individual candidates are lovable, because they’ll get the party vote regardless.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

The judges he picked said the presidential office isn’t an office under the constitution so it is up to Republicans whether or not he runs

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

Money. The answer is money.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

people have been screaming the answer at you, yet you ignore it. The American middle class was gutted by outsourcing labor and they're not happy about it. It couldn't get more simple.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago (2 children)

But that's a non-answer since Trump's party wants to make a lot of that worse

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

It's still an answer since most people base their vote on emotions and identity, not rational evaluation of policy.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

do you think they even care anymore? They lost everything, they just want to see the world burn. Again, I'm truly shocked by how you all lack empathy and fail to see the obvious.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Would I try to make things better even for strangers if I had no empathy?

I know why plenty of them feel what they feel. But they're assigning blame in the wrong directions, in large part due to propaganda, and that propaganda needs to be countered or else there won't be enough support to actually implement the fixes.

... They do want their problems fixed, right?

[–] [email protected] -2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

lol because Biden is brining the jobs back. Can you tell me one politician you support that is ACTUALLY trying to fix the rust belt? No one is helping them. They have been discarded by society, so they are lashing out.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

The Republican governors are actively opting out of federal support programs, what else can the president do?

https://apnews.com/article/states-rejecting-federal-funds-summer-ebt-8a1e88ad77465652f9de67fda3af8a2d

Republicans have abandoned them, and Republicans pretend it's society at large and not them doing it.