Y'all seriously don't think any of this through do you?
Right now, if they jump ship - they lose their network.
In the future, if they jump ship - they can do so and still maintain their network.
My enthusiasm for the fediverse is there because i see this as opportunity to shine.
Y'all see it as opportunity to run and lock your doors.
You're like the Trump of the fediverse. "Build a wall"
I say fuck that.
Again, meta joining doesn't change anything for you if you don't follow and you block it yourself.
activitypub is already a public protocol.
It's about people. You have your agency to act as you see fit. There are good people on meta platforms that i hope to invite here and activitypub makes that possible.
That's all that matters.
If its about privacy and protecting your data from corporations, activitypub is the wrong protocol for that.
I disagree with you 100% :)
What i'm saying is people like you will never be convinced of anything so it doesn't matter what Meta does.
But for the rest of us, I'll enjoy following people i haven't followed because i refuse to have meta apps installed but will soon be able to connect without them.
Activitypub is going to be here no matter what.
I'll make it so awesome the people I like on Meta will move over
And i'll continue to ignore the people who are just espousing hate and vitriol because they don't matter anyway.
It's about the people - not the protocol. the protocol helps us break the walled gardens down - but we have to welcome the people or it won't matter.
The point of activitypub is to not have walled gardens. If meta is successful then you bed RTeddit is probably going to have to federate.
Tumblr and Wordpress is already coming.
Mozilla is too.
You're not thinking broad enough.
Meta joining and be successful means Reddit has to think about federating or not being successful.
Wordpress is going to have all their blogs on activitypub soon. Tumblr says they're joining - Mozilla is hirring product and developers to build out their platform.
Also, Meta is a multi billion dollar company - they know how to do UI/UX - they can spend their investment/R&D on solving problems we can't and we can be nice and welcoming to the users who show curiosity.
It's a shame we're too short sighted to see opportunity here. We really have nothing to lose since it's not like meta will suck all the haters back in
Federation can be automatic - people just need to go find the block lists where the work is already done.
Which means there is nothing to worry about because admins will continue to shoot their own foot off. Not sure why it's such a big deal for people who will never use it anyway.
Having meta join doesn't change shit here other than have a huge corporation break the wall down on what federation means to the average joe - and that's a good thing.
Meta will meta no matter what they do - but if we can break the walled garden down and make it easy for users to move that would be great.
Having them join fediverse doesn't give them an inch, it gives us light years. I can't believe people don't realize the upper hand we have here.
There are a lot of spam accounts on fediverse. There is a huge sex worker/porn under belly, there is a HUGE amount of organized fraud. If anything, having meta join will dilute some of our own hot mess.
It's not about Meta, it's about the people.
I welcome the millions to the fediverse with open arms and hope they find our side a bit less surveillance-y and more pleasant.
Yes, I've enjoyed both of these and enjoyed them on their own unique merits vs basing it on what "star trek should be". (which drives others to hate it)