settinmoon

that was centos before it got killed off

pixel 6 pro in order to use graphene os

Ubuntu from 2010ish - 2015. Fedora ever since, with a short period of playing around with Arch on my laptop in early 2020.

Unfortunately the sad reality is most people are more than happy to trade privacy and freedom for convenience and safety. As long as people don't change there will always be bad actors trying to exploit that weakness, whether that's a company or a government. I'm pessimistic about the masses but I want to help keeping the communities of people who care alive.

Good question. If my goal is to get them off these platforms then quitting cold turkey myself wouldn't work as I found out when I quitted the fb website. For me, that has been mostly inconsequential, but messenger on the other hand is a harder nut to crack due to all the group chats. My best hope is probably to convince some of them to migrate over time, while lose contact with the rest when I move to a different city.

Well, in real life I probably do appear to be an autistic security nut to some. I don't blame people from thinking this way because I came from that place too. You just don't realize how important infosec is until you do.

I did actually manage to quit FB the website for the past two years and it was largely inconsequential, but if I quit Messenger right now I'd probably loose a good chunk of my contacts. I'm not ready to take that step yet.

I agree with most what you said here. I'd also add I personally believe I'm not in the place to tell my friends to switch platforms without them actually understanding for themselves why infosec is important. I'm trying to do some of the education but it's a slow process. Maybe when I move to a different city and lose contact most of them the transition would be automatic. In the meantime I'll need to continue using these services and try to keep my exposure to a minimum.

loool seems like our biggest agreement so far is that we're engaging in civil discussion... although other folks watching think otherwise

I made the first step a couple years ago which was quitting FB the website, but I still have one foot in the swamp that is messenger. I'm still working on getting my parents onto signal, so far haven't succeeded yet. Some people can quit cold turkey like what you did, but others like me take time.

I don't think using sarcasm as means to express disagreement, and provide examples so that the other party could better understand your viewpoint should be seen as escalating conflict. The other gentleman's statement although is something I disagree with, but still well with the boundaries of civil discussion, so I'm not seeing a need to report anything.

Well everyone that I have on messenger are people I met in real life, messenger is just my equivalent of text, I'd love them to all migrate to signal, but that's easier said than done.

ahhh yes, just remove myself from my social circle, why didn't I think of that?