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Nobody said solely at fault.

Obviously Nazism is evil, but the US isn’t ideologically opposed to Nazism (quite the opposite), so their rise to power is just the rise of one Nazi power at the expense of another (allowing the US as a world power emerging from WWII to massacre millions across the world). Besides, OP said intentionally good, this was incidental insofar as it aided in undoing Nazi ethnic cleaning (as well as “don’t include the times it was repairing damage it did”, as encompassed in the US inspiring Nazism).

I‘m open to discussion. I don’t believe China is committing a genocide or that Russia’s “aggression” had nothing to do with the US. Do you have arguments/sources refuting this? Also they responded to what you had to say, it’s already a discussion. If you can explain why OP is wrong, then do it.

Was WWII the US's fault? No it wasn't.

Sort of was

1. Fighting WWII: The US declared war on Japan in response to the attack on Pearl Harbor, it did not declare war on Germany; Germany declared war on the US three days after the US declared war on Japan. The US was blatantly looking after its own interests rather than a genuine commitment to destroying Nazism (a movement they themselves inspired [1] [2]). Not a good example.

2. Supplying Ukraine: Surprisingly Nazi proxy wars are bad and so is funding Ukrainian war crimes.

“Once”

Fuck you

Both support US imperialism, both support killing homeless people, both support exploiting workers, both support and uphold slave owners (our great founders)/American history which inspired Nazism, and clearly neither genuinely support LGBTQ people.

https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1912/nov/09.htm

I geuss I should have said shove a catus up your ass. [sic lmao] Because it might dislodge that fucking stick thats up there.

You’re the one that started the insults, I was merely replying to your point (something you still haven’t been able to grapple with).

The US isn't a place that I would hold up as an example, for pretty much anything.

And yet the narrative you were repeating was derived from the U.S., which you would know if you engaged with my sources. Naturally you were incapable, and still are. And you will lash out again when I prove you wrong on these new points, unable to conjure a refutation, with your “points” being barely developed anyways. “What if I despise the U.S. and yet uncritically believe everything they say about AES” is not the “reasonable” position.

Like how long has Winnie the pooh been the chairman is so sensitive that he jails people for saying that? [this sentence is barely legible]

Another commenter said that Winnie the Pooh was banned in China, which I proved completely wrong (naturally I was blocked). Your claim is a little more unique. Should I explain how this “meme” is racist? Naturally this is not required, as it has become explicit to the point of Xi Jinping’s skin being covered with a yellow filter on the profile image of a comm on an instance you are federated with (sh.itjust.works/c/meanwhileongrad). Hilarious (oh and consult this for “the meme originated in China” argument). Whatever, Luo Daiqing is the only example I could find online, of which he assumed the identity of someone else to post these comparisons, and thus was liable to slander (we don’t even get the specifics of his “criticism”, but this is the implication based on sensationalist stories).

Let's talk about how Beijing has lied to Hong-Kong....

This is the most specific criticism you can muster? With regards to what? Do you mean one country, two systems? Hong Kong remains capitalist, but the mainland was forced to crack down on protests that included burning an unarmed civilian alive and killing an elderly street cleaner with a brick, all for the noble cause of letting a man murder his pregant wife in Taiwan and flee to Hong Kong without facing charges; and the U.S. government (4th PSYOP group) already admitted to “pulling the strings” behind the protests in a propaganda video. I dare you to address this.

Or about how they don't own Taiwan....

[response to this] (you will be incapable of replying as per, because you don’t actually know anything about this subject)

Get it through your skull that just because they wave the red flag, doesn’t mean they are good.

Great strawman, but you know I never made this point, so I don’t know who you think will fall for this.

Under the guise of “neither Washington nor Beijing”, you repeat the propaganda of the former, and although confident, have no ability to actually prove your points. You are the donkey, led by a carrot just out of view, letting your nose guide you and while walking in the direction it is pointed confidently asserting that you have no need for carrots; you forge your “own path”, which coincidentally has already been trotted out for you, but by touching the blades and tossed dirt to each side assure yourself that you have found “the truth.”

I see the appeal, it’s really unique compared to all the basically identical cars you find around, but I wouldn’t say I like it.

You’re a dumbass western chauvinist who calls anything propaganda, regardless of claims being proven, because anything outside of your ideology regarding “regimes” cannot be accepted. Rather than proving anything I said wrong, you resorted to childish and bigoted insults, as encompassed in the term “tankie”, and in your homophobia, which you justified as being a different variety of queer yourself, and admitting to merely holding water for bigotry under the notion that “this insults people, and so must be used”, showing your ignorance not only in Chinese matters but also in your own arguments. You are the one carrying water for the U.S. (a murderous regime far surpassing China) through these narratives that are mainly propagated by them (as shown in the multitude of sources I linked) but under the guise of objectivity and opposition to extremes. You have one line which you can repeat as if it has some rhetorical power, when really it makes you seem pathetic.

Thought-terminating nonsense. It’s a homophobic insult regardless of your sexual orientation. Either way, you couldn’t refute my sources so it doesn’t really matter that you’re resorting to insults. Very clear coping mechanism.