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[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

As a workaround, if you go to your notifications inbox page, near the top right of the content area there is a little "feed" icon. It is a link to a private RSS feed to your notifications. You can use an RSS reader like a standalone application or a browser plugin to monitor. You can get a notification that way.

Above instructions are for the default lemmy interface as it appears on desktop. You can't find the link in some other interfaces. And kbin doesn't have notification inbox at all that I can find.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago (4 children)

It's a bit weird to only be on discord don't you think?

do they just post their code in a chat or something?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

@melroy Dude, you need to reign in your street team. This post and all the others like it are harassment done on behalf of you and your project. And you are here posting in support, condoning it.

Tracking a person's online activity is fucked up stalker behavior. It doesn't matter what role they play in what project. It is harassment and obviously intended to menace. No matter what OP says, everyone can see this is the case. Look at the comments on the page. Do you see comments like this about any other open source project?

It's really likely this will escalate. Nothing good is going to come of this. Kbin won't be developed any faster. Mbin's reputation will deteriorate, attract fewer users/contributors than it otherwise might have and specifically repel friendly helpful people who don't appreciate this kind of thing. Your instances may be de-federated for failing to stop harassment. OP will sink further and further into whatever miserable spiral they are in. You personally will be associated with all of it because as a community leader you come here to encourage OP in this unhinged behavior. Find a way to redirect this energy into something that is useful for your project, or disassociate from it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

who is the judge of the server side code? what about the terrible green on white default lemmy color scheme? who is the judge of https? who is the judge of the physical infrastructure of the internet? who is the judge of wifi6?

omg it goes so deep judges everywhere judging me!!!!!!!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

global blocklists

good thing nobody suggested that..... And if they did it would be completely unenforceable.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Imagining for a second that I had the technical ability to do so. The thought of running a lemmy server and letting random people make accounts sounds scary to me. Especially a "general purpose" one. I would feel responsible for the crappy stuff posted by users. How do people cope with that.

Also would not be able to conduct the "investigations" required to determine if an instance was csam etc. Because that means you have to go and check it out! we can't have a system where every admin is basically required to view CSAM. that's crazy.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

So far, not a problem that I have noticed or even seen discussed.

Moderation is very light compared to reddit. I hope it will become more mature as moderators can really make special contributions.

Quickly scanned your post history and it's a bunch of nasty nonconstructive comments with a similar tone to the above. If you experience problems with mods everywhere you go, it's probably due to your own behavior.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I believe they are moving. Paid for in some part by .tv

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

There are some tools that can help with this but I don't think completely automatically. I don't use any of them.

See: https://github.com/dbeley/awesome-lemmy#tools - scroll up and down the page too might be something that suits you

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

Well I'm not involved so don't let me put you off it. :)

In broad principal I think a lively kbin fork is desirable.

It is very strange that the people associated with it spend their time doing posts like this one. No matter what you think of someone development style, tracking their behavior like this is fucking weird. Bordering on harassment. And in service of promoting their platform.

Why not announce features and bug fixes like a normal project?

But honestly I am hoping that if some more calm people get mixed up this will cool down.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago (9 children)

@TheVillageGuy take a look at this post that showed up on my feed along with the present one: Why I started Sublinks: A timeline of events.

It seems like this person had a somewhat similar experience to yourselves in that they were frustrated with the development of lemmy. Some effort was made to contribute but it didn't work out. The frustrations mounted and eventually a new project was the only way forward.

Same the mbin folks, a chat server was a useful off-threadiverse venue where ideas coalesced and relationships were built. As a participant in mbin do you catch my drift that they are roughly parallel trajectories? I'm not in either community don't know the details.

But notice how the problems with other people or orgs is only mentioned in that they are relevant to this story. And while it does allude to some problems which were emotionally taxing, the focus on what was done to fix it and the outcomes.

So far the mbin project still exists and I do see people using it. If it's going to be a long term thing youse should consider how you are representing yourselves. Being a weird Earnest accountability stalker is off putting. If you were doing it on your own behalf it would be a little disturbing. But you so clearly are doing it as some sort of ambassador in order to suggest people use mbin; and other mbin people have said similar things so I am not intending to single you out. This behaviour makes you and by extension mbin seem like a bunch of unhinged petty drama queens. It give a shine to the project as a whole. It is unnecessary. It will continue to have no helpful impact on the outcomes of kbin.

I think it is possible at this point to set a new tone if you want. Try the link, maybe even get to know these folks if you don't already because I bet it would be productive. Youse are probably facing similar issues with federation. Just need to decide what chat software to use.

 

Links:

  • Firefox
  • Chrome
  • Edge - v1.2.3 is still being approved, you can grab the release from Github if you are eager
  • Opera: Still under review, please download from Chrome webstore or Github release.

For questions / support: https://lemmy.ca/c/instance_assistant (alternate: lemmy.ca/c/instance_assistant)

What’s new?

(read on the wiki)

  • You can now customize the instance list to match which instances you actually use. This should be helpful for those that have accounts on different instances.
  • Added a settings page so that you can turn off features that you don’t want active
  • Added buttons for helpful tools that let you explore Lemmy/Kbin communities (with lemmyverse.net), and search across Lemmy sites (with search-lemmy.com).
  • Added a sidebar for those that prefer it (works on Firefox, Chrome & Opera; Edge doesn’t have sidebars yet but the code is there)
  • Fix for issues with the search trigger on the community not found page (thank-you to whqwert!)
  • Various bugfixes, small theme changes, and improved wording

What’s coming up?

(read on the wiki)

  • Working with the amazing /u/[email protected] to bring over features from the LemmyTools Userscript^1^
  • Integrating lemmyverse.net and search-lemmy.com so you can do everything right on your community page^2^
  • Adding icons and simplifying the design, as the UI is getting wordy
  • Adding support for alternative home instances (ex. Alexandrite - Issue 14)
  • Ability to have multiple ‘home instances’, so you can open it in any without having to change your home instance each time.
  • Finishing the setup so that people can contribute translations / other languages to the extension.
  • Getting the extension on Opera (no immediate plans, but this would be good to have)

More details:

  1. /u/[email protected] has created a really useful userscript that you can find here: https://kbin.social/[email protected] (alternate: thesimplecorner.org/c/lemmytools). We’re going to be working together to bring those features into Instance Assistant, so that you can have all the features in one place.
  2. Right now there are buttons to explore Lemmy/Kbin communities (with lemmyverse.net), and search across Lemmy sites (with search-lemmy.com). Both of these take you to the respective webpages. Instead, it might be nicer to have a lightweight version right on the Lemmy/Kbin community page (or in the extension popup/sidebar). This should be possible using their APIs/data access, and I have a little working proof of concept already (see GitHub)

I’m new, what is this?

Instance Assistant is a browser extension that started out as a way to quickly jump from one community to the version on your home instance, so that you could subscribe/participate immediately. Since then, a few other features have been implemented:

Features

  • Redirect to your home instance:

    • Buttons will be added to the sidebar of any Lemmy or Kbin community you visit, which will let you open the same community on your home instance.
  • Open links in home instance:

    • Right click context menu will allow you to open any links in your home instance
  • Improved Error Pages:

    • ‘Community not found’ pages now have better information, a button to trigger a fetch, a button to open a community in the source instance, and more.
  • Customizable popup & sidebar menus:

    • Customizable list of instances to let you quickly switch home instances. This is great for if you have multiple accounts on different instances.
    • There are also buttons for helpful tools that let you search for communities (with lemmyverse.net), and search across Lemmy sites (with search-lemmy.com).
  • Settings:

    • You can change the default behaviour of the extension, customize the popup & sidebar menus, and turn off features you don’t want to use.
 

I can't believe how fast this addon was developed into something that is super useful.

A month ago I made a list of all the available addons to address this need. There were I think 4-5 of them and I actually didn't end up using any of them because they were too simple and didn't add much for my usecase.

In the intervening days (days!) this project has really fleshed out. I am impressed that you've managed to make an interface that makes sense. I wasn't sure if that would be possible because it is kind of an inherently complex situation.

And on top of that, it works. There are issues with federation which are network wide and not much you can do about that. But as much as the threadiverse is willing to cooperate, this addon smooths the experience.

Thanks, I really appreciate this.

 

I am not sure what is correct to put in kbin-core/issues without cluttering it up with somewhat speculative requests. I have no idea how to implement this or whether it is possible. So I will post here?

This is a response to issue
#635 - Editor support for autocompletion when a user types /m/, /c/, /u/, or @

@garrettw said:

After all of this I'm left with the distinct impression that a standardized link format is needed across the fediverse for any fediverse content.

I keep wishing for UUIDs or hashes or an internal link shortener or permalink something.

These are the same post on different instances:

It would be nice if it would have a unique ID like e3d14d6c-28d7-11ee-be56-0242ac120002 across the *verse. I can't be the first person to think of this right? Why is ity either not a good idea, or not a viable idea?

I imagine 2 variations. I am not attached to any of the particulars... Just spitballing. What do you think?

  1. /local/uuid

/local/e3d14d6c-28d7-11ee-be56-0242ac120002 - this link would bring the user to the post on the instance where you are viewing it.

So if someone writes in a comment:

check out [this post](/local/e3d14d6c-28d7-11ee-be56-0242ac120002)!

and you are viewing it on beehaw, it renders like this:

<p>check out <a href="https://beehaw.org/post/6759290">this post</a>!</p>

if you are viewing it on kbin.social, it renders like this:

<p>check out <a href="https://kbin.social/m/[email protected]/t/237162">this post</a>!</p>

  1. /orig/uuid

On the other hand we need a way to link to the particular item as it appears "originally". To do this, you could write:

check out [this post](/orig/e3d14d6c-28d7-11ee-be56-0242ac120002)!

And irrespective of where you are looking at it, it will render like this:

<p>check out <a href="https://fedia.io/m/firefox/t/132144">this post</a>!</p>

I am not 100% sure if the correct behaviour for this is to link to the community home instance or the poster's home instance? I went with community home but maybe there is argument for the other way, or for both.

 
 

Im sure theyre going to find the perfect mods

 

I would like to suggest that developers consider as much flexibility when trying to interact with links/handles from off-instance and off-kbin (e.g. lemmy) as possible. I would like for it to work on lemmy in a similar fashion.

I think that the various "incorrect" ways of doing things should work as redirects assuming this would not cause a technical problem. It could even explain the correct way of doing things if you'd like to discourage it.

Non exhaustive examples:

communities

as an example: https://lemmy.ca/c/wowthislemmyexists

search kbin.social for https://lemmy.ca/c/wowthislemmyexists - finds occasions where people have mentioned the URL in comment/post

Most lemmy instances suggest searching for a group in a way that doesn't work:

search kbin.social for
for [[email protected]](/c/[email protected]) - finds occasions where people have mentioned the handle in comment/post

you need to replace ! with @ to find it:

search kbin.social for
for @[email protected] - works as expected

So the kbin.social URL is https://kbin.social/m/[email protected]

But what about variations a person could try based on principals of how things work e
lsewhere:

https://kbin.social/m/@[email protected]

[https://kbin.social/m/[email protected]](https://kbin.social/m/[[email protected]](/c/[email protected]))

even allowing use of the /c/ instead of the /m/?

profiles

profiles have similar inconsistencies.

I can view this off-instance profile on kbin.social: https://kbin.social/u/@[email protected]

but if I try to drop my own username into the same structure, it doesn't work: https://kbin.social/u/@[email protected]

The only way to see my profile is (I think) https://kbin.social/u/density

Hope this all is intelligible.

 
 

/r/Firefox and /r/FirefoxCSS have both moved to fedia.io kbin instance.

from kbin.social I can access Firefox. But I can't access FirefoxCSS. I waited about 90 mins since first trying. Should I just wait longer or is there some other issue?

@[email protected]
fedia link: https://fedia.io/m/Firefox
from kbin.social: https://kbin.social/m/[email protected]
search on kbin.social: https://kbin.social/search?q=Firefox%40fedia.io

@[email protected]
fedia link: https://fedia.io/m/FirefoxCSS
kbin.social: https://kbin.social/m/[email protected] "404 Not found"
search on kbin.social: https://kbin.social/search?q=FirefoxCSS%40fedia.io "Empty"

 

I was thinking about how there are similar communities on different instances. In some cases that is desirable/ok but maybe it would be cool to have another option.

Say there are 3 separate communities on different instances for amateur cobbling (DIY shoes). None are big enough to really get going. Interested users trickle in here and there but there isn't enough to engage them. People try cross posting but that just breaks up discussion and leads to a "spam" feeling for those subbed to all of them. Everyone likes one another and they basically want one unified forum.

Would it be possible to automatically duplicate content posted to each instance to the other 2 instances? Including comments, mentions, etc.

Not like a multi reddit because would also share sidebar, mods, posting rules, other aspects. More like a mirror? or a repost bot?

But I don't know if it would mean

  • 1 of the communities is the "main"
  • the other 2 are copies under a different name
  • they function as symlinks when mentioned or when traffic requested at them

it all goes to "main"

or

  • they are all equal to one another
  • any post you make to one instance, a post is automatically made on your behalf on the other instances
  • likewise any comments or other interactions

or

  • a post you make to one instance "lives" on that instance, but the 2 other instances will show it in their feed.
  • when viewed on another instance's community, you will see that it is on the original one.

of course this raises questions such as

  • what happens if the groups decide to split up after some time?
    -instance have different codes of conduct?
  • what if host instances de-federated from each other?
  • could it be used to undermine instance autonomy? evade spam bans etc?

Anybody thought of this kind of thing? I doubt it would be on the agenda for next week but interesting to think about.

 

If you ever have the problem of forgetting you were writing something and closing a window, or accidentally navigating away from the page on which you are composing, this is the browser extension to save your ass: Form History Control.

In kbin I especially have this problem as I get logged out constantly for some reason, for example while I am composing even a fairly short comment, and if I submit while logged out the text vanishes. But everything is stored in the extension. It is local to your machine where it will be secure.

I am using it for a year or two now and it has been flawless. It doesn't cause any slowdown in browser performance. It is unnoticeable until that moment you need it.

 

If you ever have the problem of forgetting you were writing something and closing a window, or accidentally navigating away from the page on which you are composing, this is the browser extension to save your ass: Form History Control.

In kbin I especially have this problem as I get logged out constantly for some reason, for example while I am composing even a fairly short comment, and if I submit while logged out the text vanishes. But everything is stored in the extension. It is local to your machine where it will be secure.

I am using it for a year or two now and it has been flawless. It doesn't cause any slowdown in browser performance. It is unnoticeable until that moment you need it.

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