This place really needs a rule on quality news sources. Not that it would be enforced correctly like the rest of the rules.
PizzaMane
joined 1 year ago
It is too far to say all the raping is being done by the IDF, as Hamas clearly did some of its own. But the IDF pretty clearly doesn't have clean hands in terms of rape:
https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/20/middleeast/israel-hamas-un-investigation-sexual-abuse-intl/index.html
At the end of the day, the genocide of Palestinians is a far bigger concern.
We'll do anything except address the gun problem, no matter how many people die as a result.
Do you think a CEO is always representing their company?
Yes.
Is your obsession with white nationalists because you can’t call everyone fascists or you will get banned?
Like I already said, it isn't an obsession.
Bad people do bad things is the kind of logic I should expect from you.
This is a strawman.
Do you have evidence that Trump is a white nationalists? Remember try to be specific in your examples.
I already linked this earlier just for you to ignore. So I'll put in the same level of effort.
He has a weird fascination with white nationalist and calls a random people white nationalist.
Given that neo nazis are publicly and openly marching in the streets, I wouldn't call it a weird fascination. It's a legitimate concern for anybody who cares about their rights, the rights of others, or democracy.
When ask for proof, he just babbles and claims you’re moving the goal post.
When you ask for proof you ignore the proof and move on to the next thing. You always get that treatment because that's always what you do.
Garbage in, garbage out. If you wanted to have honest discussion, you need to be honest. But you're not, so it's what you get.
Avoiding reading info wars is actually better.
Being uninformed is better than being misinformed. Info wars will never inform anyone. You cannot get an educated opinion out of a source of misinformation.
I don’t see any evidence in your source that soul cycle was involved in the fundraiser.
Then you don't have the reading comprehension needed. So I'll spell it out for you. Their CEO (the person who runs and represents the company, whom they have ties to) ran a Trump fundraiser, which necessarily connects the two.
It this your way of saying you support black nationalists, chinese nationalists, Jewish nationalists…?
No, of course not. Nationalism, especially racially based nationalism is always bad. But none of those other forms are currently a problem.
This is like having a building on fire, and then complaining that firefighters aren't putting out the fire the homeless started in a barrel. Your concerns are beyond misplaced. You don't care about the truth, all you're doing is finding some bullshit loaded question.
You somehow forgot to mention which rights you were fighting for by boycotting soul cycle.
I already explained this.
If you don't already have a good understanding of what rights neo nazis/white nationalists are seeking to remove, then you're either incapable of understanding, intentionally ignorant, or in support of their removal.
Not really. If anything yall kinda act like Trump is your religion.
Use an actual argument next time.
invested in soul cycle hosted a Trump fund raiser.
I don’t see any evidence that soul cycle supported a “white nationalist”.
Yeah... think a little harder on this one.
Don’t know why the race of a nationalists is important to this discussion but we are not discussing your race hangups right now.
Thank you for the reminder that white nationalists are supported around here. I needed the reminder to not take this place seriously.
the company had no connection to the fundraiser
They did though.
https://www.vox.com/2019/8/8/20782269/stephen-ross-soulcycle-equinox-trump-donor
https://www.vox.com/2019/8/9/20791646/soulcycle-trump-fundraiser-backlash
Seems pretty straightforward from a quick skim. They publicly supported a white nationalist/fascist. And a fun fact about white nationalists and fascists, they are hell bent on taking peoples rights away.
There is a fundamental (and probably intentionally) failure of history here.
Germany was never socialist, nor were the nazis. Just as North Korea is technicallt callee the "Democratic People's Republic of Korea" while not being a republic or democratic, the nazis weren't socialists because they have the word socialism in their official name. Official names can, and in this case are bullshit. There was a socialist movement in Germany, but the nazis co-opted and destroyed socialism. Many of the political prisoners in the holocaust were communists and socialists, taken away because they were communist or socialist.
The nazis didn't get any ideas for socialism. They destroyed the socialist movement, as it was antithetical to their goals.
But they did learn from the U.S., and how the conservatives in Texas treated immigrants. At the time, they would only allow people of color through if they went through harsh chemical cleaning treatments under the guise of getting rid of lice. The nazis took that idea and ran with it. And nowadays the U.S. treatment of immigrants is not much better thanks to conservatives.