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Yes there are different types of art. Yes some are impressive for technical skill in a specific medium. Traditional Hyper-Realism or corporate artists are good examples. Sandcastle art is cool too.

I don't think these things will lose their unique value, but they are similarly not arguments against photography, film,digital art, etc for the things that give them their unique value. I think that also applies to AI mediums.

Nuance in everything.

The AI in that song is just used as a tool to emulate the sound of drake's voice. The rest is standard artist composition.

While I don't particularly care for the song, comparing it to doping is not reasonable.

Same with all AI art tools. Actual artists can make reasonable use of these tools to more efficiently convey what they had wanted to convey.

This is just like when cameras were invented. Or people started using digital mediums. Or when people started making 3D art.

Even simple prompt only stuff like midjourney is improving to allow artists more control over the image they are trying to create.

If we end up with a holo-deck style experience where artists can craft entire worlds and details through gesture and dictation as a form of expression, is that still not art?

Keep saying the same about diffusion models as well. I guess we just want adobe and other wealthy companies to be the only ones with access to proprietary datasets large enough to make futuristic art tools.

Pay subscriptions to your overlords or suffer.

The acceptance of people being safe to love who they want to love, or be comfortable in their own body. Isn't that what Nazis were brainwashing for? No?

How about teaching from a scripture that encourages blind faith, the threat of eternal damnation, and hatred or abuse towards people for being gay?

We going to do an article every time someone uses a loom to make clothing?

The issue is that art currently relies on the whims of people who control the money.

We need a new socioeconomic system with a more fair wealth distribution, so common people can afford choose to support artists that they want to support.

i hate giving anecdotal evidence, but i wasn't expecting it to be such a black and white change for me personally.

i can draw a clear line between the previous twenty years of my life, and a few years ago.

it's just weirdly amazing to able to have a small thing go wrong and just be like "ah dangit." rather than having a depressive spiral and mourning my own existence for the rest of the day.

not that i don't sometimes have pessimistic thoughts or bad days, it's just not overwhelmingly defining of my every moment.

at the very least, i'm eager to see a lot more research being done. if it is legitimate, and others can have the same change in life experience that i've had, then it's a damn tragedy it hasn't been studied more thoroughly ages ago.

artist here. nobody is thinking about AI as a tool being used.. by artists.

the pareidolia aspect of diffusion specifically does a great job of mimicking the way artists conceptualize an image. it's not 1 to 1, but to say the models are stealing from the data they were trained on is definitely as silly as claiming an artist was stealing every time they admired or incorporated aspects of other people's art into their own.

i'm also all for opensource and publicly available models. if independent artists lose that tool, they will be competing with large corps who can buy all the data they need, and hold exclusive proprietary models while independent artists get nothing.

ultimately this tech is leading to a holo-deck style of creation, where you can define you vision through direction and language rather than through hands that you've already destroyed practicing linework for decades. or through hunting down the right place for a photograph. or having a beach not wash your sandcastle away with the tide.

there are many aspects to art and creation. A.I. is one more avenue, and it's a good one. as long as we don't make it impossible to use without subscribing to the landlords of art tools.

Humanity is already plunging into dystopia without AI. Changing A.I. Doesn't matter as much as changing our economic system, and flaunting of wealth and power to ensure it only gets worse. A.I. Just makes it more immediate and obvious.

Things should be moving in the other direction. The entire point of antitrust is to prevent things from getting to where they already are. None of the telecoms should be growing in power or consolidating at this point, and there was no good reason to allow it. There is already a disgusting overreach of power, and antitrust should be actively making changes to increase competition and set guardrails. Rogers should also not be gaining after they downed important services over the entire country for a whole day.

Notably, the restrictions and promises made to allow the deal were an absolute joke, and the citizens come out last here. There was no reason to allow the insulting deal that was allowed.

This 26 billion dollar deal is supposed to come with billions of dollars in required efforts. The punishment for failure is a fine that is... A fraction of what those efforts cost. 1/26 of what was spent on the deal paid over ten years.

The amount of money given to these companies is already absurd.

And now we are paying Rogers ten million for necessary due diligence? The power dynamic is beyond broken.

hey at least i got you to call them shit. so you are denying they have any interaction and influence in canada, and fuss over the name. CCP is commonly accepted.

i also didn't claim that chinese people in canada are all connected to the CCP. i did say that there should be more open dialogues stating that clearly for the dunderheads that can't grasp that fact. oh wait, that's "victim blaming" while instead i should be just trying to inflate into a race-war?

friend i think you just racist, and use that as an excuse to not partake in actual conversation. or you just really really want people to fight each-other because of their race. you ignored my comparison to russians, made up more strawmen, and then made blanket statements about an entire race of people as if they're some amalgamate whole.

something i haven't done.

you could have just said "i don't think there's as much influencing from the CCP as you are lead to believe."

but that would almost be a conversation.

you sad angry person. good luck with that.

ok. you don't want to talk. you just want to be another asshole who lives and dies by strawman and red herring. you seem upset by the focus on criticizing the CCP. i think criticising the CCP is very important, which is why the emphasis. do you by chance support this fascist political institution?

i get the feeling you won't answer that question. strawman life and such.

you did a great job at ignoring everything i said and then misrepresenting me.

"The perpetual foreigner mindset. They will never see certain people as Canadian. "

this is directly antithetical to my beliefs and actions. although that won't stop you from saying it.

and at no point did i even mildly suggest that chinese canadians have to prove they aren't CCP agents, or insinuate that they are any less canadian than i am.

however i did suggest that a more open dialogue on the subject could help to dissuade that from being a popular mindset for people incapable of understanding nuanced situations.

can't have a single conversation without this strawman bullshit.

from my understanding, there is enough reason to believe in and want to deal with CCP instating their authority in canada to affect canadians. i did also suggest that there might be difficulty in dealing with it openly due to pressure from an unethical authoritarian regime.

if your argument is that there is no CCP influence problem, that's another conversation, and i'm always available for new information. if your argument is that we shouldn't care even if there is CCP influence, then i disagree with you.

again, i am not and never would be defending the assholes or behavior stated in op's article. if you could just say "no, stop, that's bad." and have the issue be fixed, this would be a lot more simple. that apparently won't stop you from ignoring that nuance exists.

i have never said anything negative about "chinese canadians" because that is a diverse and populous group of every kind of individual and mindset. just like any other large group of canadians that fit any other group label. that being said, i have a in intense loathing of the CCP and other authoritarian regimes. i say the same shit about russia. i also don't agree with labelling all russians as evil, just because of the shitty situation caused by the authoritarian regime in charge.

i am just doing my best to understand and react to a complicated and nuanced situation that affects many people, as well as the stability of our political structure. if you disagree with any of my points, make a note on that point. don't ignore my intentionally phrased statements so that you can put words in my mouth and strawman my intentions into something else.

you are helping nobody and doing nothing to improve the situation.

maybe stop being an asshole and actually take part in a conversation.