Peanutbjelly

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

AI or no AI, the solution needs to be social restructuring. People underestimate the amount society can actively change, because the current system is a self sustaining set of bubbles that have naturally grown resilient to perturbations.

The few people who actually care to solve the world's problems are figuring out how our current systems inevitably fail, and how to avoid these outcomes.

However, the best bet for restructuring would be a distributed intelligent agent system. I could get into recent papers on confirmation bias, and the confabulatory nature of thought, on the personal level, group level, and society level.

Turns out we are too good at going with the flow, even when the structure we are standing on is built over highly entrenched vestigial confabulations that no longer help.

Words, concepts, and meanings change heavily depending on the model interpreting them. The more divergent, the more difficulty in bridging this communication gap.

a distributed intelligent system could not only enable a complete social restructuring with autonomy and altruism both guaranteed, but with an overarching connection between the different models at every scale, capable of properly interpreting the different views, and conveying them more accurately than we could have ever managed with model projection and the empathy barrier.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Just seen too many kids abused and crushed because their parents own them, and there is no caring community close enough to help. Id rather have been raised by a supportive parental community. Then again, I was tossed between several people who didn't want the burden, which is the origin of my perspective.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Might just be biased coming from neglect and abuse. Just feel like kids should have access to help outside of their immediate proximity. Also pretty sure I didn't mention any eugenics, but maybe a base education should come with access to your own child property that you are allowed to abuse, as long as its not too noticeable. I think perspectives here will be conflicting.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (4 children)

I feel like we need to design an obligatory habitat for parents. They would hate this idea, but hear me out.

This could allow super efficient distribution of resources specifically to help children, as well as a controlled environment to ensure the parent doesn't spend it on alcohol while neglecting the child.

You could tailor the local net to avoid bad actors from outside, while maintaining a degree of freedom and privacy for the children. Maybe holds parents to some standard of accountability, while providing an obvious escape route for children with abusive parents. A place for children where they don't feel separated from, or lesser than other children due to the circumstances of their birth. Maybe allow a healthier, safer environment.

I would suggest a system that can be regulated and controlled without people putting cameras on the children.

Adults suck. Children should not be forced to endure the hell that adults can create.

Yeah parents wouldn't like it, but very few existing parents provide an actually healthy environment to grow in. Maybe becoming a parent should hold some actual responsibility.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Yeah I'm going to have to leave this sub if this shit keeps ending up in my feed while I'm eating or in public.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

The main issue though is the economic system, not the technology.

My hope is that it shakes things up fast enough that they can't boil the frog, and something actually changes.

Having capable AI is a more blatantly valid excuse to demand a change in economic balance and redistribution. The only alternative would be destroy all technology and return to monkey. Id rather we just fix the system so that technological advancements don't seem negative because the wealthy have already hoarded all new gains of every new technology for this past handful of decades.

Such power is discretely weaponized through propaganda, influencing, and economic reorganizing to ensure the equilibrium stays until the world is burned to ash, in sacrifice to the lifestyle of the confidently selfish.

I mean, we could have just rejected the loom. I don't think we'd actually be better off, but I believe some of the technological gain should have been less hoardable by existing elite. Almost like they used wealth to prevent any gains from slipping away to the poor. Fixing the issue before it was this bad was the proper answer. Now people don't even want to consider that option, or say it's too difficult so we should just destroy the loom.

There is a markov blanket around the perpetuating lifestyle of modern aristocrats, obviously capable of surviving every perturbation. every gain as a society has made that reality more true entirely due to the direction of where new power is distributed. People are afraid of AI turning into a paperclip maximizer, but that's already what happened to our abstracted social reality. Maximums being maximized and minimums being minimized in the complex chaotic system of billions of people leads to inevitable increase of accumulation of power and wealth wherever it has already been gathered. Unless we can dissolve the political and social barrier maintaining this trend, it we will be stuck with our suffering regardless of whether we develop new technology or don't.

Although doesn't really matter where you are or what system you're in right now. Odds are there is a set of rich asshole's working as hard as possible to see you are kept from any piece of the pie that would destabilize the status quo.

I'm hoping AI is drastic enough that the actual problem isn't ignored.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago (4 children)

"The surprising thing we find is that, essentially, you can use the largest model to help you automatically design the smaller ones"

Hey, how do we get a clickbait title out of this?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I definitely agree that copyright is a good half century in need of an update. Disney company and other contemporaries should never have been allowed the dominance and extension of copywrite that allows what feels like ownership of most global artistic output. They don't need AI, they have the money and interns to create whatever boardroom adjusted art they need to continue their dominance.

Honestly I think the faster AI happens, the more likely it is that we find a way out of the social and economical hierarchical structure that feels one step from anarcho-capitalistic aristocracy.

I just hope we can find the change without riots.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (4 children)

And you violate copyright when you think about copywritten things alone at night.

I violate copyright when i draw Mario and don't sell it to anybody.

Or these are dumb stretches of what copyright is and how it should be applied.

the reasoning in this article is dumb and all over the place.

Seems like gary marcus being gary marcus.

Already seen openAI calling out some of the bullshit specifically noted in this. That doesn't matter though, damage is done and people WANT to believe ai is terrible in every way.

Everyone is just deadfast determined to climb onto the gary marcus unreasonable AI hate train no matter what.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

God I want some large projects by independent teams. It's impossible to do anything without a sponsor, but this might be what we need for smaller groups to create wonderful complex works of art, instead of cookiecutter boardroom content machines that currently flood almost all available commercial artistic spaces.

Can't wait to see how the tech develops. It's be curious to do VR experience recreations of my dreams through AI dictation.

Modelling, rigging, animation and the like are all coming. Imagine walking around a world being crafted and changed as you describe each element to be exactly what you are looking for.

I think it would capture more artist intent than the unnecessary interface of archaic tools that create an artificial interface and challenge between you and your vision.

Especially if you've damaged your digits, or otherwise lack digital dexterity.

But change scares people. Especially ones who have put in effort to conform to the current economic system corporate art creators.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (3 children)

That's already the system outside of creating what rich people want. An entire team of artists creating boardroom directed art is much less art to me than a single creative using AI to bring their personal vision to life.

Hopefully individual artists can do more with these tools, and we can all hope for a world where artists can be supported to have the ability and freedom to create apart from the whims of the wealthy.

Starving artist is a term for a reason. Technology has never been the real problem.

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