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I'd like to add to your brilliant run-down of reasons why Israel's actions are provably genocidal, that they have also committed the fifth.

Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

https://reliefweb.int/report/occupied-palestinian-territory/fate-baby-and-other-palestinian-children-unknown-after-israeli-army-forcibly-transfers-them-out-gaza-strip-enar

https://www.savethechildren.net/news/palestinian-children-israeli-military-detention-report-increasingly-violent-conditions

No, it's not true to say that an event is not Genocide just because the party (rightly IMV) accused of Genocide hasn't blocked 100% of humanitarian aid. Blocking humanitarian aid is illegal under international law.[1][2]

In deciding whether or not the event constitutes Genocide, It matters whether the killings and conditions imposed on the population of the Gaza Strip can be proven to be carried out with genocidal intent. South Africa has already presented ample evidence of statements from Israeli leaders which are/seem tantamount to statements of genocidal intent, and the ICJ has already ruled that there is a plausible risk of genocide being committed. We are just waiting for the ICJ to make their ruling.

Google gave me an article from The Guardian from 2001.

Secret UK deal freed Pinochet

A new book alleges the former dictator's release from Britain was brokered between Chile and Downing St.

Augusto Pinochet, the former Chilean dictator, was allowed to escape extradition to Spain on 2 March last year because of plans worked out over many months by Tony Blair and Foreign Secretary Robin Cook in collaboration with Eduardo Frei, then President of Chile, according to leading Chilean sources. José María Aznar, the conservative Prime Minister of Spain and his Foreign Minister Abel Matutes, were involved in the planning.

The Blair-Frei plan was to prevent Pinochet's extradition while observing the law. Instead, the Prime Minister and Foreign Secretary relied on Britain's wide discretion on extradition matters.

The plan was conceived in 1999 after it became clear that the Pinochet affair was dragging on far longer than governments expected and came to fruition when British doctors examined the General at Northwick Park Hospital in Harrow, north London, on 5 January last year. Their report allowed Straw to exercise his discretion to release Pinochet on humanitarian grounds even though the former dictator had never said he was too ill to stand trial.

Frei argued to Blair that neither government would benefit if Pinochet were to die in England and that he could be tried in Chilean courts. According to the book, Blair emphasised to Frei that the case was before the courts and the Government could not interfere, adding that any British leader would court grave problems at home if he were seen to interfere with the course of justice. If there were any powers which Government could exercise they would be exercised by a Home Secretary not a Prime Minister, he said. Blair undertook to do what he could within the law provided the exchanges between the two leaders were kept secret. The authors claim that Blair suggested setting up a 'back channel', with two people appointed to liaise between the leaders' private offices.

The contact man between Frei and Blair was Cristian Tolosa, Frei's press chief, who made six visits to London in the second half of 1999, liaising with Blair's aide Jonathan Powell at Number 10. Yesterday, Downing Street said that it did not comment on contacts between officials.

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JUST IN: Member of Hamas Political Bureau, Ghazi Hamad:

We already expected this result at the Doha negotiations.

Netanyahu was practicing deception and did not provide answers to all the questions to reach an agreement. Netanyahu sets new conditions, undermines what was previously agreed upon, and his goal is to continue the war.

We will not allow the occupation in any way in any part of the Gaza Strip. Netanyahu wants to propose a new formula for negotiation from the beginning to gain more time.

What was reported in the Wall Street Journal about Israel’s readiness to withdraw from the corridor is not true.

Israel wants to leave a loophole in the agreement so that it can return to war later.

No agreement can pass without a complete ceasefire, the withdrawal of the occupation, the return of the displaced, and the exchange of prisoners.

Our position is strong and firm and all factions agree on it, and we will no longer enter into any futile negotiations.

‼️ The Iranian response & Hezbollah’s response are their right and have a different path than the negotiations.

Hezbollah has been fighting for more than 10 months and offering martyrs, and it is thanked for what it is doing, and the occupation only understands the language of force.

https://x.com/AryJeay/status/1824531086233215417

Israel has always planned on escalating the war as much as possible as it advances their geopolitical interests and so they have always sought to undermine all ceasefire negotiations. They know that the US will be forced to defend their Zionist outpost in the Middle East from an attack led by any party. The US is straight-up lying about there being a possibility that Israel will agree to a ceasefire in the hopes that Iran will delay or consider abandoning a large retaliation.

Hamas weren't even at the talks Biden is talking about here! Hamas withdrew from the negotiations because they were/are a sham. They demand Israel accept another deal agreed upon months ago.

From Praxis Redacted telegram:

Hamas leadership source to AJ:

What we were informed about the results of the Doha meetings (https://t.me/PalestineResist/53086) does not include a commitment to what was agreed upon (https://t.me/PalestineResist/52491) on July 2.

Hamas sources to Al-Aqsa TV:

The Hamas movement is committed to the July 2 proposal. (https://t.me/PalestineResist/52491) What reaches us through indirect channels falls short of the presented ceiling, and Hamas will not accept it.

Ibn Riad: May God curse those who are complicit with laundering these sham "ceasefire talks", knowing full well that they are doing nothing other than buying the occupation more time to murder more and more and more. May they find no forgiveness in this world nor the next.

@BIG_Brother7 on X: (https://x.com/big__brother7/status/1824470133445730786?s=46) Qatar and Egypt, as mediators, lack even a shred of honor; if they had any, they wouldn't have taken part in this farce called ceasefire talks.

A mediator is supposed to be neutral, but these two shitstains aren't even that; they are just marionettes of the empire.

Ahmed Hassan in Yemen: Every time America and “Israel” deceive the people [to instill] a false hope, they talk about a ceasefire and the release of hostages.

This is a policy so that people lose interest and do not monitor the current events, so that America and “Israel” can manipulate and deceive the people.

We should not talk about an illusion and care about empty talk.

The ceasefire should not be conditional on the outcome of negotiations, the ceasefire and stopping the massacres is a non-negotiable issue.

Hamas leader Mahmoud Mardawi to Al-Arabi:

We will not accept any solution that does not align with the July 2 (https://t.me/PalestineResist/52491) proposal.

The Palestinian people will not pay the price for the U.S. position that covers for "israel" and its crimes.

Zionist officials to Hebrew Channel 12: We do not agree with the estimates of reducing the state of alert. We presume that an attack from Iran or Hezbollah could happen at any moment.

I think it's much easier to discover new content on Lemmy.

Pretty sure that anti-anti-fascism is just straight-up a Nazi trope.

The Pahlavi family being the Starks of course.

Fucking libs.

How is it remotely sane to give support to any candidate who backs an ongoing genocide? It's only sane to do so if you're apathetic to the said victims of genocide and know that their ghosts won't affect you after they've been murdered by the politicians you've elected.

If there are 2 buttons, and both will result in the commission of Genocide, you don't press either button. This is why this meme wouldn't work in its usual context if the buttons said that.

Any voter or potential voter who has moral principles and values should withhold support for any candidate who supports or enables the most serious crime known to humanity.

If a political opponent of Adolf Hitler was vying for election in Germany in 1932 or 1933, and that political opponent also had the same views towards Jews and/or other ethnic, racial, religious and national groups as Adolf Hitler, with the same intention to commit and use the power of their office to facilitate genocide against those groups as the NSDAP has, you don't vote for that other candidate, even if they maintain free elections within a fascist Germany. On principle, every person has a moral responsibility not to support, nor facilitate the crime of Genocide. A true democracy allows for true political expression of the population and doesn't force its electorate to back a Genocide.

I hope I'm not being OTT or patronizing. When talking about an ongoing Genocide against a group it's off to reduce the (unfortunately) political issue of Genocide prevention to the less serious language used in US domestic politics. And there ought not to be a reason why Palestine is less important than Ukraine or Russian influence in Europe. I mean Palestine is fucked right now and has been since 1948. Why would European people let Palestine be fucked for decades since it doesn't affect Europe but care about Ukraine since it does? I dunno such a shit situation.

I think the South African team presented their arguments extremely well. I wonder what extreme Oct. 7 atrocity propaganda Israel has prepared to show the UN's highest court tomorrow. Surely that's all they can do since they haven't been able to refute any single argument presented by South Africa. Initially, each side was given 2 hours to make statements, Israel requested an extension to 3 hours.

All they had to do was play back the Zionist's own statements to prove they were genocidal. So far they've claimed that Hamas is the party committing genocide (ridiculous), but as was explained by South Africa, they are not a state party and so aren't subject to the Genocide Convention.

Vaughan Lowe argued strongly that nothing can possibly merit a response of Genocide in any context. This simple fact must expose whatever attempt to reframe themselves as victims that Israel will try to pull tomorrow.