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You want to debate the specifics of an article from a source I find unreliable. I don’t want to. I wouldn’t want to if someone was posting something from Israel Hayom either.

The beauty of Wikipedia is they cite sources, keep edit history, and have a strong ethos of neutrality.

Smaller articles are more prone to being abused due to the sheer scale of Wikipedia, but are still subject to moderation if reported.

I don’t view Wikipedia articles as definitive, but generally I trust the community and don’t believe it has been overrun by right wing groups like NGO Monitor.

There is a consensus that NGO Monitor is not reliable for facts. Editors agree that, despite attempts to portray itself otherwise, it is an advocacy organization whose primary goal is to attack organizations that disagree with it or with the Israeli government regarding the Israeli–Palestinian conflict. Some editors also express concern about past attempts by NGO Monitor staff to manipulate coverage of itself on Wikipedia

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Media coverage of the crisis there has been very biased and superficial.

Can you be more specific? Is there any particular coverage that you find biased and superficial?

I will admit that some outlets undoubtably cover this better than others, but that is the case in all conflicts.

I tend to side with Wikipedia in believing The Cradle unreliable in their news coverage, and wanted to pass it along.

They are are listed in the same category as the Anti Defamation League on the topic of Israel. Something that The Cradle chose to write about without disclosing their own status.

Foreign Policy – Bias and Credibility

Bias Rating: Least Biased

Factual Reporting: High

Country: USA

Press Freedom Rank: Mostly Free

Media Type: Magazine

Traffic/popularity: High Traffic

MBFC Credibility Rating: High Credibility

MediaBiasFactCheck.com: About + Methodology

Ad Fontes Media Rating: Middle / Reliable

By: Pierre Espérance

Archive Link: 21 Jun 2024 22:32:15 UTC

Reuters – Bias and Credibility

Bias Rating: Least Biased


Factual Reporting: Very High


Country: United Kingdom


MBFC’s Country Freedom Rank: Mostly Free


Media Type: News Agency


Traffic/Popularity: High Traffic


MBFC Credibility Rating: High Credibility

MediaBiasFactCheck.com: About + Methodology

Ad Fontes Media Rating: Middle / Reliable

By: Aleksandar Vasovic

Also By: Daria Sito-Sucic in Sarajevo, Stevo Vasiljevic in Podgorica and Fatos Bytyci in Pristina

Edited: Jason Neely and Andrew Heavens

Archive Link: 21 Jun 2024 20:44:44 UTC

Foreign Policy – Bias and Credibility

Bias Rating: Least Biased

Factual Reporting: High

Country: USA

Press Freedom Rank: Mostly Free

Media Type: Magazine

Traffic/popularity: High Traffic

MBFC Credibility Rating: High Credibility

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Article By Abdullahi Alim

Archive Link: 21 Jun 2024 21:41:42 UTC

For those who don’t know, The Cradle is banned by Wikipedia as an unreliable source.

The Cradle is an online magazine focusing on West Asia/Middle East-related topics. It was deprecated in the 2024 RfC due to a history of publishing conspiracy theories and wide referencing of other deprecated sources while doing so. Editors consider The Cradle to have a poor reputation for fact-checking.

I wish reporting like this would bother to define what they mean when they say children. Are we talking about 16 and 17 year olds, or are we talking about 7 and 8 year olds? They mention a single 7 year old who was released “hours later” after supposedly being arrested and “beaten on his hands” whatever that means exactly.

Also, if anyone has information on the primary source for the article, the Palestinian Prisoners Club, I’d be interested in learning more. From a quick search, Qadura Fares, a Fatah/PA politician is cited as the President/Head in several articles. The Wikipedia page redirects to this article, and this Facebook page comes up in a quick search. I didn’t find anything else of consequence unfortunately.

Edit: After a little more digging, looks like some articles refer to the same group as The Palestinian Prisoner's Society (PPS). I believe this is their, currently down, official website. Their Instagram, Twitter/X

Not a bot, just me manually adding it to my own posts.

Reuters – Bias and Credibility

Bias Rating: Least Biased


Factual Reporting: Very High


Country: United Kingdom


MBFC’s Country Freedom Rank: Mostly Free


Media Type: News Agency


Traffic/Popularity: High Traffic


MBFC Credibility Rating: High Credibility

MediaBiasFactCheck.com: About + Methodology

Ad Fontes Media Rating: Middle / Reliable

Reporting by: Emilie Madi in Beirut; Aziz Taher, Hassan Hankir in Sidon

Writing by: Maya Gebeily

Editing by: Alex Richardson

Archive Link: June 20, 2024 4:42 PM UTC