DaseinPickle

No, web3 is pure crypto bro marketing. And is very anti solarpunk. It uses a lot of energy to keep blockchains running, and a lot of the underlying logic about trust and contracts are capitalist ideology.

No group chats are not.

I dont know why you keep arguing that encryption should only be used to discuss dangerous stuff. It should be used to discuss private stuff. Like when I sit with my friends and talk, I want it to be private, not recorded in clear text and saved on some server. Not because it’s illegal or sensitive, but because it’s fucking private. And I can’t do that with Telegram, because it’s doesn’t encrypt my information.

What’s your point? The same goes for 1-1 chats. If you don’t trust the people you are communicating with encryption is not going to help you. It just happens that I do trust my friends and family. And it’s not about sharing specific sensitive information, it’s about using technology that prevents mass surveillance. And Telegram is just a bad tool for that. You might as well use Instagram.

So you would prefer a platform to not have the keys to hosted content but allow that to every group member? That's not much different from sharing your credit card details with your friends.

That is not how encryption works. Not even remotely. You only share your public key with people you communicate with not your private key. This is not comparable with sharing credit card information. You need to read up on how encryption work.

And there is no reason Telegram could not host information and still encrypt it. Lots of services do that.

Look at ProtonMail/ProtonDrive they host mails and files without having any access to it. Look at Keybase, they host all kind of encrypted communications services without having access. Telegram could do it, they choose not to, and that should be a concern.

Why would I use non encrypted group chat when I can just use Signal. Why use a product with bad security?

It doesn’t matter if there is evidence of Telegram spying or not. They have the capability to do it. And with all the companies selling customers data to train AI, I don’t want to risk it. And the best part is, that I don’t have to, because there is Signal and all my friends already use it.

I don’t mind things being hosted elsewhere as long as it’s encrypted and the host provider do not have the keys. That is not the case with Telegram. If you like Telegram, sure use it. But don’t use Telegram if you value privacy, use it because you like its user experience and know that you are sacrificing privacy. That might be fine for you, but not for me.

That’s a strange argument. I want my group chats with friends and family to be private. Why should Telegram or Meta be allowed to spy on my private conversations just because there are more than two people?

Leaving would also leave room for competitors to grow big. The market is still there and if American companies won’t deliver other companies will.

Maybe make it a non-profit like Signal. As soon as the motivation is maximising share holder values, the goal becomes to extract as much value out of the customers. And effective dating apps should not want their customers to return. It’s a conflict of interest.

Well it already works and has been since 2019. Personally I prefer to keep communication within the app at least until the first date. But 10 euro for at date and a drink is reasonable for most people. I think it’s a nice service that the app setup the date and streamlines the important part. Tinder streamline the non-crucial part of just browsing people. Tinder is not really solving a dating problem, it’s solving a social validation problem.

I think it’s Dutch, but has recently expanded to Berlin. The scaling of the concept is probably a bit slow, since they need to partner up with local bars for the concept to work. But better slow and working than fast and predatory like Tinder. Instead of Silicon Valley’s “move fast and break things (and people)” maybe move slow and heal things are a better approach.

It definitely helped my life with new ideas, good friends and a better career. It’s also free in my country, and you actually get paid to go there, so it was never a difficult decision.