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Alicia Navarro, now 18, walked into a police department in a tiny Montana town 40 miles from the Canadian border and identified herself as the teen who was reported missing in September 2019, Glendale police said Wednesday.

The teenager — who was described as autistic but high-functioning in her missing person’s report — left her Glendale home overnight on Sept. 15, 2019, at just 14 years old.

Glendale police said they are investigating how the teen got to Montana and whom she has been staying with over the past four years as many questions remain unanswered.

They said Navarro ran away from home under her own free will and has been cooperating with their investigation.

She also told police that no one has harmed her and she appeared to be healthy.

She is asking for privacy so she can move on with her life, Santiago said.

Really werid, wonder how she managed to survive for four years but I hope the investigation finds out the she was simply extremely resourceful and not something more sinister.

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[–] alphapuggle 50 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

She is asking for privacy

Proceeds to publish an article on her situation

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago

They say that they wanted people to know that she is safe. Since her disappearance was already made public, it's possible to maintain privacy by not revealing more details in regards to the actual investigation, the missing person's listing is also public and would have been taken down anyway.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I hope it’s resourcefulness, but it’s hard to imagine a 14 year old making it on her own for such a long time. But who knows, maybe she was doing bug bounties or freelance work and having the payment go through a corporation to get around the age thing. For like $500/year you can incorporate in some places it might even be less.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There are so many traveling kids out there. The types who sell wrapped stones and hemp bags at street festivals, drifting in and out of communal living situations, camps, etc.

I flirted with all that when I was younger, still think about just taking off in my car sometimes. Ok, a lot of the time. It's pretty tempting for a lot of us to just say fuck it, and drop out of society and into a counter culture, or a nice intentional community.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I can relate to this, poor kid must have been going through a lot at only 14.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Hell, I had fairly supportive parents, and I barely held on. But in some sense, I really just prolonged things. Dwelling on the same thing for decades, through changing perspectives.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

You don't even need to go that far. You can make good money with a push mower just mowing a couple lawns each day and (up there) I think you can then snow blow in the winter.

It is entirely possible to fly under the radar and make enough money to live ok.

If you're the least bit handy there's all sorts of cash only work that a 14-18 year old doing wouldn't raise any eyebrows, especially if she's been staying near small towns a cash only rent deal for some trailer or shack is also not going to be hard to find.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It's possible she was cared for by a genuine good samaritan, illegal though that may be. It's technically still kidnapping, even if someone underage wants the help to get away from their family.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I don't think letting someone stay with you voluntarily is kidnapping, and it sounds like this was of her own free will.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That would require the law to acknowledge that young people have free will... Which it only does when they commit crimes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Mens rea and cognitive ability to consent/form intent is a very interesting subject, especially when it comes to minors. Society supersedes its judgement for the judgement of the minor where the minor is deemed not to have the sufficient mental capacity to consent to an action with full understanding of the consequences and context (sometimes only acquired through age or experience). It's usually also only exercised as a means of protecting the minors (e.g., ability to consent to sexual acts with adults when underage). Criminal acts are slightly different though as it's generally more about the individuals (minor or otherwise) capacity to form intent to actively harm/deprive/defraud/whatever in the context of what would be normal and reasonable for someone of like experience, knowledge, and circumstance. And even then, minors have a separate legal track in acknowledgement of their inability to fully grasp context and impact (see previous point about consent above) for all but most egregious and grievous acts.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Legally, if you take in a runaway, and don't make an effort to get them back to their legal gueardian, I think there's still a case for it to become abduction in court.

Legally, a child doesn't have the ability to choose to leave their legal guardian (except through legal child protection channels).

They can't just move in with a stranger. When does taking care of a runaway, become hiding them? Morally, there can be good reason to keep them from their family, but the law won't necessarily recognize that in cases like this, where CPS wasn't properly involved.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's going to vary by jurisdiction, but generally it's not kidnapping or abduction. There are often State criminal statutes specifically for harboring a runaway though.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thanks. I was pretty sure it does end up being a crime in a lot of cases, if not a kidnapping.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah. I'm not an expert in these jurisdictions, but at a glance it looks like Arizona and Montana have some statutes that could apply. And who knows what other jurisdictions she was in? The article doesn't say anything and it would be difficult, but showing up 40 miles from the border it's at least theoretically possible she was in Canada for some of that time.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Exactly why she probably waited till she was 18. Legal adult, she can now publicly acknowledge her safety without being forced back to her parents and/or being forced to divulge information on who they were staying with.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I hope it is not kidnapping but no good deed goes unpunished, right?

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