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[–] [email protected] 77 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The Pi foundation showed their true colors. Don't continue to support them.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What did they do, I'm out of the loop?

[–] [email protected] 117 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)

Completely abandoned their original hobbyist customer base and sent all their inventory to B2B sales channels and scalpers for several years.

And now that they're finally providing B2C vendors with stock, they've jacked up the prices by 100% to 300%.

Don't forget the Raspberry Pi foundation was supposed to be a nonprofit and the only reason they're the premier SBC is the community. Other boards have better specs, at a better price, with better features. The community support, the hobbyists, are the primary reason why they are what they are.

That's just one bad action, but their had been plenty others recently. Some other comments here have provided information you should read, such as hiring police officers who specialized in using Pi's for surveillance..

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

Also if you get a slightly bigger form factor, you can just buy a much better one.

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[–] [email protected] 71 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The 3B+ was probably the high of the raspberry pi. It is still pretty much unrivaled in terms of idle power consumption and energy efficiency (or at least i have not seen any other SBC that got below 0.5 Watts on idle) on the consumer market.

But i have trouble investing further into them.

  1. They do not post any update guides for newer Debian releases and basically only support new deployments.
  2. It looks like they are abandoning their older products. vcgencmd for example is still broken on the 3B+. Since they "fixed" it for the 4B. See https://github.com/raspberrypi/firmware/issues/1224
[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I agree that the 3B+ was the best Pi but for other reasons:

  • The Pi 3B+ had the perfect balance between performance and price with the performance being good enough at the time.
  • Design flaws at launch. Remember the Pi4 CC1 & CC2? POE getting pulled from the market?
  • Pi5: 5V 5A USB-C??? There is now 45W USB-PD (@15V) that would be compatible with generic PSUs but they went proprietary with 5A@5V.
  • They put big customers first and let everybody else starve during the shortage. This forced me to alternatives and I have to say they work just as good and cost less.
  • Jacking up retail prices: Even Intel x86 is now cheaper than a Raspberry Pi.
[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)
  • Pi5: 5V 5A USB-C??? There is now 45W USB-PD (@15V) that would be compatible with generic PSUs but they went proprietary with 5A@5V.

Was not even thinking about that. Implementing USB-PD is so easy these days. Basically just putting a chip there who handles the PD and then a step down(or whatever) converter which they already have anyway. (See ebay USB PD trigger for implementations)

That is so dump.

Talking about hardware flaws, i think they even fucked up the USB-C implementation on the PI 4. They put the resistor on the wrong pins or somthing. Dont remeber exactly.

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[–] [email protected] 68 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I think pi is on the road to mainstream. Probably time to shift to an open source hardware competitor to boost it. Not saying pi is bad, I have one and its great. Those like me who love tinkering should consider going the extra mile and „radicalize“ themselves to open hardware. The project I hear the most of is Banana-PI. https://www.banana-pi.org

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

If you're thinking about buying, be aware they removed the audio jack.

[–] Muffi 40 points 1 year ago (2 children)

And still using micro-HDMI for some godforsaken reason

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago

They also removed hardware encoding. They've had the same shitty h264 1080p encoder forever, but it was better than nothing.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 year ago (15 children)

Ok, I can buy a quad core thin client for $30. The prices for these are too high for what they are.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm just hoping rockchip gets better kernel support. They are way better positioned on the CxB scale.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

$100 for no h265 hardware encoding.

Hard pass.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (7 children)

But you can get a used thinkcentre tiny mini micro on ebay for $80. Wtf would I spend 100+ on a pi?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Most ppl do not bother to calculate that in(especially idle consumption) or living in an area where it basically does not matter.

But yes, no x86-64 device comes close.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I was thinking more along the lines of battery powered operations. I can stick a Pi, a car battery, a solar panel into a weather proof box and set it in the woods if I needed to.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The power button and RTC are my two favorite additions lol

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Too many other options to be excited about their offerings anymore

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