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A drug infamously touted by Donald Trump has been linked to nearly 17,000 Covid deaths in a new scientific study.

Researchers say that the anti-malaria drug hydroxychloroquine was prescribed to patients during the first wave of Covid-19 “despite the absence of evidence documenting its clinical benefits.”

The French study estimated that 16,990 patients in the US, France, Belgium, Italy, Spain and Turkey may have died as a result of the drug.

The study has been published in the February issue of Biomedicine & Pharmacotherapy.

Researchers say the data used comes from a study published in the Nature scientific journal, which reported that there was an 11 per cent increase in mortality rate linked to the drug’s prescription.

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[–] [email protected] 90 points 9 months ago (13 children)

17000 republicans deaths. Because no one else is stupid enough to believe his word.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It does say from around the world. But I take your point for sure.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago

*conservative deaths

[–] [email protected] 27 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

To be fair, the 17000 were not even all Americans. 16,990 patients in the US, France, Belgium, Italy, Spain and Turkey. I too dislike Trump but the world is larger than the US

[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

We would need to see the breakdown. If it's 14000 in the US and 3k elsewhere then that's telling but i don't see that information listed anywhere.

Edit: Found it!. It's about 13K in the US.

Overall, using median estimates of HCQ use in each country, we estimated that 16,990 HCQ-related in-hospital deaths (range 6267–19256) occurred in the countries with available data. The median number of HCQ-related deaths in Belgium, Turkey, France, Italy, Spain, and the USA was 240 (range not estimable), 95 (range 92–128), 199 (range not estimable), 1822 (range 1170–2063), 1895 (range 1475–2094) and 12739 (3244− 15570), respectively.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Would've been hilarious if that matched the exact number of votes he lost Georgia by or something like that.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

11,780 conservative deaths in GA... What a coincidence!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago

Clearly Brandon poisoned the Georgian Hydroxychloroquine supplies!

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago

Or vulnerable relatives and friends of those same republicans.

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 9 months ago

How can you say it's not effective? Do those 17,000 dead people still have COVID? /s

[–] [email protected] 53 points 9 months ago (2 children)

17000 deaths.... Within a limited set of countries, so the entire amount world wide will be much, MUCH higher.

Trump is the direct cause that covid got that big in the US, he directly recommended shit like this medication, hell he recommended injecting bleach.

Trump is DIRECTLY responsible for the deaths of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of men, women and children.

But hey, let's make him president again!

[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

hell he recommended injecting bleach

Okay...first and foremost: Trump is a fascist moron, an absolute danger to everyone, and can go fuck himself. However, he did not recommend injecting bleach. He VERY STUPIDLY asked his task force if it was something we could do.

Source: https://youtu.be/zicGxU5MfwE?t=35

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago

Which you could argue is also a large component of the inflation we've had. We wouldn't have had to massively stimulate the economy if there wasn't a pandemic. But it was all Biden, charging you more for eggs, right?

[–] [email protected] 46 points 9 months ago (18 children)

Even if 10% of those people took it because he told them to, that’s 1700 deaths on his head.

I haven’t even killed one person.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago (6 children)

Given they're still alive, their k/d is undefined

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

1st, I doubt he cares or even thinks about it.

2nd, if we’re talking about his actions leading to deaths, I’d say this one is his top-performer (5/10/2018):

https://x.com/atomicanalyst/status/994696175575068672?s=46&t=g3yM8UdEINqcLyXIxWs-lg

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You'll never make it as a conservative.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (3 children)

I haven’t even killed one person.

Have you even made the effort?

People are so lazy these days.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Well technically, dying does eliminate COVID from your body.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 9 months ago (6 children)

This is probably the grossest "um, actually" I've said ever, but I think technically rotting is what eventually gets rid of the covid in your body. A recently deceased person would still "have" covid in them.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Unfortunately, the people who need to know the results of this study don't believe in studies.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago

Some of them are. But I know plenty of Trumpers who consider anything coming out of a university or any study as "fake news."

[–] [email protected] 33 points 9 months ago (1 children)

'member when Oklahoma bought $2m worth of hydroxychloroquine at the height of repub's hysteria, then tried to return them for a refund? Pepperidge Farm 'member.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Wait... they got prescriptions for it?

Where are the malpractice suits? Where are the licensing authorities?

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 9 months ago (2 children)

A lot of people in here acting like the patient was the one that got to decide what kind of drugs they were getting. I had covid very very early on, and I was hospitalized. They had me on hydroxychloroquine. The doctors and nurses didn't know what the fuck was going on, they were trying everything they could hoping that something would work. I was basically a test subject because it was so early on. It looks like it didn't kill me, which is great, but at no point did I ask to be put on it.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago

Yeah but the subsequent private purchases of the drug well after it was established to not work is what the issue is.

If you got covid in that first year you were getting treated with the kitchen sink. Your Healthcare decided the drug was worth the risk and you got it. Not every hospital was doing that, hell I hadn't even heard of one using it until your comment..

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Look, nobody kills off his base better than him.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

To the tune of Gaston --

"No one kills off their base,

let leopards eat their face,

leave thousands of bodies all over the place..."

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (5 children)

What's the word we use for a group of people who follow their chosen leader no matter how ridiculous? I can't remember...

Didn't some people drink a bunch of poison koolaid once?

/s

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago

It was Flavor Aid, not Kool-Aid

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Meanwhile, my local Walmart is fully stocked on horse paste. We were in the pet care section yesterday. A bunch of boxes of apple-flavored ivermectin. And I'm guessing they didn't have that many because people go to Walmart for horse care supplies.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Doesn't his buddy own the company that makes the stuff?

This was a pumb and dump scam that Trump ran right from the White House.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago

Personally I liked his stint as a bean salesman while in the white house, just casually sitting at the resolute desk hocking beans...just president stuff NBD.

the orange idiot selling beans from the oval

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Killing your supporters, brilliant move. 4d chess.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago (7 children)

Let's be real. This dude was doing us a favor by doing this. Anyone dumb enough to listen to him fucking deserves it.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago

If they were just taking it themselves, that is, unfortunately a lot of these shitwads have children and other dependants.

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