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[–] [email protected] 65 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I'm loving all the replies pointing out their clown makeup.

Why did they make a public post about this? Surely they would just send notices to the relevant parties?

[–] [email protected] 34 points 10 months ago

they smoked their own supply is how. The management team ate the legal departments bs about how they are fighting a righteous cause here.

[–] [email protected] 58 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Nintendo can't get emulators that actually are for the primary purpose of bypassing their restrictions (even if doing so on legitimately purchased games is perfectly legal) shut down, and this company thinks they can close a fucking reader because it's possible some people might use it with pirated copies of their IP?🤣

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

They can and they will because the dev team caved.

In regards to the forks though. We'll see if they get a computer literate judge or not.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Harassing specific devs may mean those devs don't push back, but being open source means anyone else hosting it can trivially counter claim bullshit DMCA nonsense.

It doesn't take any tech literacy. There's no infringement and precedent out the ass that things far closer to the line are legal. There's no need for a novel interpretation of anything. The project doesn't contain their IP.

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (5 children)
[–] [email protected] 57 points 10 months ago (2 children)

It's using a plugin system for various sources, basically it's just a fancier front end for the source websites. it is not hosting its own (illegal) content.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 10 months ago

yeah, it is like suing a qbittorrent

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

yeah, they are trying to sue tachi since most of plugins were tachi's own plugins. idk what the copyrights holders are going to do now since the unofficial plugins are out.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Nope they are only using API's from the various hosting sources. That's what makes this request so blatantly fraudulent. For all intents and purposes Tachiyomi is just a Browser specialized for Manga

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (2 children)

But don't worry, the tachi devs genuinely consider the mass bs dmca spam from kakao to be entirely good faith and legitimate

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

To my understanding, they are still supporting plugins, it's just they won't provide the list of apps, you should be able to add your own repository of plugins to download, in fact, there are some going around.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

it is on their discord announcements

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 1 day ago)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

No but it does give users one click access to the illegal sources, which could be a problem in some legal jurisdictions.

Personally I just use it to read from my personal komga server, but it would be sad to see the app get attacked.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

You need to set up quite a few things first. It's like suing an app store cause you can install a browser and pin a piracy website to your home menu, giving you one click access to illegal sources.

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 10 months ago

BRB, let me go create another fork.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Actually insane the extens these fucking idiots go to. Not only do they provide sub-par services, they also ask high amounts of money in return.

What if I didn't know English, are they going to translate X manhwa in my native language like the groups do? No? Well boo hoo they are actively hurting the popularity of artists instead of helping them.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago

They even threatened manhwa readers

[–] [email protected] 40 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Saikou already DMCAd last year and Dantotsu is reborn. Now, tachiyomi is next target. it will be like whack a mole game.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

Is there anything left of Saikou? I've been keeping it on Obtainium waiting for a potential rebirth

(Btw, tangentially related, anyone knows if there is any fork named "Saikope"? I've had that app installed for a long time and I don't even remember where I got it anymore)

[–] [email protected] 39 points 10 months ago

They literally said straight up that tachiyomi was a virus in their past post. Cant make this shit up

[–] [email protected] 35 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Each of these sites Tachiyomi uses are compliant with DMCA. Not taking it down on them and instead crippling Tachiyomi is literally the worst action to do.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago

Yeah, there was past incident that Saikou already DMCAd last year and Dantotsu is reborn. Suppose tachiyomi goes this way. that will be rough journey.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Fuck kakao 🖕

[–] [email protected] 23 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Anyone have any context here? No idea what I'm looking at

[–] [email protected] 48 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Kakao nuked the official Tachiyomi Extension repo because they "infringe on their copyright".

The Extension repo does not and never has offered copyrighted material, it merely facilitated access to sites that do within Tachiyomi. Essentially it was a collection of hyper specific Browsers. The repo is gone, the extensions are not (they are now in a different repo provided by a user). Tachiyomi itself allows for 3rd party repos now and everyone is mad at Kakao for making the App less usable.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

A bit longer than that. Kakao went after tachiyomi for a number of extensions, the biggest ones being mangadex and bato.to. the Tachiyomi team took the plugins down without fighting back. A day later they announced they're taking down the plugin repo effective immediately, likely out of fear of future action but it also could've been discussed behind closed doors with the Kakao team - we don't know. Now Kakao is trying to sue the entire app, all of its developers and anyone who's forked it on GitHub for infringing copyright.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Korean company went after a manga reader type app with some sketch DCMA claims. Now they’ve saying they’re going to pursue legal action against 100 forks of the app.

Corpos being fuckwits and going after open source software that can be used to pirate manga/manwha/etc

[–] [email protected] 21 points 10 months ago

Great so now I'm gonna get sued because I forked tachiyomi? Fuck off

[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago

Bunch o' fuckwits trying to make themselves sound like damned war heroes

[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Tapas sucks. If you want me to buy your stuff, please at least actually sell it to me on Kindle or Kobo instead of making me use a shitty coin system

[–] [email protected] 18 points 10 months ago

Not only Tapas, it's like every manhwa publisher

from r/manhwa

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Already did the repo thing for tachiyomi, but what about anyiomi?

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (4 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Seriously, Kakao is very, very nasty company that should be destroyed on this planet. If you live in Korea, you are basically forced to used their product and they suck, riddled with Ads because they're de facto standard for chat, taxi, etc. I hate having to use their product.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

They're notorious for overworking their artists. and authors. One of them is Solo Levelling artist died from brain hemorrhage in 2022 and he was working under Kakao.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

WTF, didn't know this. This is horrible

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

https://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/nation/2023/01/718_334310.html

And I heard of another author who had a miscarriage because her editor didn't give her a break.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Don't you have a Cartel office? Thats a illigal monopoly

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

We have one but they don't do anything :(

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

it will not be easy because tachiyomi is open source and it is like whack a mole game

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Eh I've heard Pakistan is selling some nukes. Only problem is putting it up the ass of the asshole responsibil for that fucking company.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I wonder how much it would cost to send a bag of dicks internationally...

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

12kg 37,50€ for me... Pretty expensive but might be worth it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Let's really do this, we can really crowdfund dicks And send them to their head office, or houses of their talking heads

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