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Netflix says people just kind of rolled over and accepted the password sharing crackdown::Netflix subscriptions are up almost 6 million this quarter, suggesting we're all just too exhausted to fight this stuff

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[–] [email protected] 135 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I had a feeling they would but I did leave myself. Only problem is the person I was sharing with made an account so it was a net 0 impact.

[–] [email protected] 66 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I get the feeling that the kind of person that is on Lemmy is the kind of person that ain't gonna take no shit and drop it just to stick to the man. I myself dropped Netflix but seems to be a common theme here.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The kind of person on lemmy is probably already self hosting a plex server that has all the content they care about and sharing it with their inner circle

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

I know the feeling. I hate Netflix with a passion but my SO uses it. I have a Plex server full of stuff and constantly adding and showed her how. I cancel Netflix every month though 😂 can usually make it a day or 2 passed when it was supposed to renew before she uses it again and resubscribes.

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[–] [email protected] 114 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Not me. When me and hubby couldn’t watch different shows at the same time in the same house a room apart, I cancelled the account and never looked back. They’ll never get my money again.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

Same. Super annoying.

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[–] [email protected] 102 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It’s spin. The additional subscriptions came from markets where Netflix is cheap. Not North America.

“While the company added subscribers, it said average revenue per member fell 3% from a year earlier. That was partly because many of the new sign-ups came in countries where Netflix charges lower prices.”

https://www.reuters.com/technology/netflix-tops-wall-street-forecasts-with-password-limits-ad-option-2023-07-19/

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)
[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Netflix just dumped one of those lower tiers you mentioned (though existing subscribers at that tier are currently grandfathered in). The same article I linked to points out that they also aren’t seeing the uptake for their ad supported tier they’d hoped for. And they’re already coaching that next quarters guidance will be down further. I expect more churn as Netflix quality continues to decline and competition and prices continue to increase.

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Voting with your wallet doesn't work when there are so many other wallets out there that don't care.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean that’s the point of voting. Sensibility got outvoted unfortunately

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Sure, but I'm saving $20 a month now so that's nice.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I closed my family shared account and started pirating Netflix shows/movies instead.

We paid for the convenience. I will happily just pirate if that's what they want 🤷

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Turns out lemmy users aren't representative of the greater public.

Of course the person using a shared password either left (saving Netflix money) or got their own subscription (giving Netflix money).

Netflix doesn't care that people who weren't paying stopped using their service.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I just made my own personal Netflix, with blackjack and hookers.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Nearly 2000 movies, over 200 series, over 50 anime movies and about 300 animes in mine, sharing it with 30 other friends and family. Currently looking into automations for it. This is the way.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Sonarr and Radarr are your friends for automation (TV and Movies) there is another arr for music but I don't use that one.

My workflow is essentially:

  • Queue up what I want in *arr

  • It sends request to sabnzbd

  • Better qualities that I want are updated automatically, new episodes are downloaded automatically.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Why are people so dumb… They treat us bad? Let’s throw more money on them.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

People are dumb, but moreso they are lazy and want to be entertained rather than self improve. You can teach yourself how to create your own Netflix in a day but most people would rather endlessly scroll content that makes them feel envious or angry because that seems easier than learning something new.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

Same shit as politics

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago

Netflix says a lot of things, some aren't true

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago

The American people are so hopelessly broken, it's shameful.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've found sailing the high seas to be far more convenient than using Netflix nowadays. I can watch what I want to watch when I want, instead of finding out a movie I wanted to watch was removed recently

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They haven't had anything interesting to watch since Squid Game. This Black Mirror season had like one good episode.

But sales are slumping
And no one will say why
Could it be they put out one too many lousy records?!?

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Personally, the value proposition for Netflix is really lacking compared to Amazon Prime (which also comes with prime video and Amazon music) and Apple One family (which also comes with Apple Music, extra iCloud storage, Apple TV and Apple Arcade) which I have so it was pretty easy to cancel my Netflix subscription.

If I could bundle Netflix with something else it might make it worth it but comparatively the content on Apple TV is so much better than anything Netflix have at the moment, in my opinion (really enjoying Silo atm but have loved Ted Lasso, Severance, The After Party amongst others).

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago

I don't really get the "fighting" part. Don't like it, don't buy it.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago

There is no way. Netflix is saying that so people are like "Well, I guess im the minority, I will just keep the subcription"

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

Well that’s depressing

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I haven't because Netflix hasn't given me a good solid reason to return to them.

I wouldn't exactly say everyone is too tired to fight this stuff. Because, a bubble has yet to burst somewhere if it hasn't already. Netflix just fails to see the bigger picture of this problem and once that bubble bursts, the bubble of financial strains on society, they'll feel it tenfold.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

Large thinking on your part here. However, the issue is people will purchase it no matter what. Your efforts to stamp Netflix out personally are great but they are overshadowed by a company that makes millions and doesn't need your 13 to 14 dollars a month to stay subscribed.

If we want to show companies we aren't going to participate then we have to indefinitely convince the population not to participate. That isn't going to happen. These companies know that they will make money and people will keep buying.

This applies to almost any industry. Take something more environmental. I haven't eaten fish in 3 years because of how bad the fishing industry is. Mind you I am hypocrite and eat chicken and beef and those industries are just as bad but I am trying to cut back on them as well. Problem is, my one little attempt to not aid in the fishing industries endeavors are swamped by the millions that don't care, are oblivious by choice or, just would rather exist in a world where there are no problems.

The truth is the big companies should hold a responsibility but our laws (at least in the U.S.) fine them small amounts of what they make double of. Their are no laws to truly stop massive corporations because the corporations are fined rather than the people running the company and that is by design because technically the fisherman can't be held accountable in the companies wrong doings if the CEO was the one doing the wrong doings but the fisherman is aiding those wrong doings unknowingly so you punish the company not the people running it.

Then it boils down to if you can't change the company then it becomes the people's responsibility and we have one but we blame the company and or ignore our responsibility.

The truth is it's everyone's responsibility. The companies the people's. The human equation just doesn't care. People aren't going to stop watching Netflix over money the same as they won't stop giving fishing companies money to kill the ocean that gives Earth life. Because there is no immediate effect to their lives. It only matters to most when it's too late.

We could divulge into a thousand topics. This isn't meant to discourage your efforts. Don't pay Netflix save your money but getting on Lemmy and stating, "Netflix will fall." Can only happen when people give a damn just like you or when the companies give a damn. Companies have one incentive, money. People have incentive to buy a product if it works and brings some form of usefulness to their lives. No matter how you look at it or how much an end user wants to bitch about money. The truth is Netflix works so we are going to spend money to use it.

You could apply this to Google Search, Apple products, etc. There is no incentive to allow competition, care about your privacy, care about your well being, if the incentive or money takes precedence. Additionally, that means we have a problem but on the other hand. You know what works? Google Search, do you know what gives Google Search the edge? Your data and money. You know why iPhone is popular because it's easier to buy an iPhone to talk to friends and the messaging just works. You know the problem with Apple products? No incentive to switch to better platforms like RCS over SMS. Apple doesn't want to change the consumer should and we will keep buying their product.

Point being people have to truly change to change a company.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Stories like this are weird. As are the reactions.

It's a nominal cost for a lot of content. Some people lost access to it because they were sharing accounts, and millions who did decided that it was worth the $12 or whatever to get their own account.

And?

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

🤷‍♂️ we canceled our Netflix account, so that's about all we can do

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (8 children)

I really wanted to cancel my subscription. I consider piracy to be a moral option against the aggressively repressive sonny bono copyright law. But I can't pull the rug out from my mom's feet back home (I live in another state). So instead of getting to cancel in protest like how I want, I still just pay for one Netflix subscription that I don't use personally.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

Morons. Stop paying more for less services.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Netflix is like that kid you knew in elementary school who always told lies. Saying stuff like "Yeah, my dad is a billionaire with a rocket car and he invented toothpaste!"

Why are we believing anything that Netflix has to say? They are most likely using some obscure way to calculate that number in order to try to retain the customers they have left.

From all the social media posts, I'm pretty sure they lost a good chunk of customers. Don't let them win with their slowly deteriorating content and rising prices. Instead, sail the high seas like the internet of old time!

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I still share my password with a few other households and we've experienced no service interruption at all. if they catch me, I'll just cancel my account then resub to binge anything that looks interesting. plenty of free streaming sites I can scroll through while complaining that there's nothing good on, I don't need to pay for the privilege.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I rolled... Of of my inlaws Netflix account and directly into the welcoming arms of piracy. I've always ridden the high seas as needed, but now I raise the black flag with pride since the only streaming I pay for now is music (music piracy is just as easy as normal piracy, but it's a lot more annoying to manage if you like to listen to a variety of stuff)

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The only reason I have Netflix is because I don’t pay for it. I get it free with Tmobile. I wonder how much of these are from TMO new users instead of organic subscriptions

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

When we couldn’t share a family password anymore we just didn’t sign up for our own account. Easy as that. Been watching a ton more Hulu as a result. Netflix isn’t worth more than a one-month sub/year.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Crackdown of what? I can still use multiple devices in different households at the same time, albeit I had to upgrade to 4 screens because my parents and my gf could use it. Maybe this measure has not been applied the same everywhere

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I once refused to buy an iPhone because of Apple’s closed ecosystem and legal battles with competitors. And, well…

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

I didn't. Of course, most people probably didn't.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I mean, it only affected our smart TV. Everything else, including the laptop, my phone, and my tablet, can still use my parent's Netflix account just fine.

So yeah, I guess I just literally rolled over to another device and used that instead.

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