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The Biden administration is providing $162 million to Microchip Technology to support the domestic production of computer chips — the second funding announcement tied to a 2022 law designed to revive U.S. semiconductor manufacturing.

The incentives include $90 million to improve a plant in Colorado Springs, Colorado, and $72 million to expand a factory in Gresham, Oregon, the Commerce Department said. The investments would enable Microchip Technology to triple its domestic production and reduce its dependence on foreign factories.

Much of the money would fund the making of microcontrollers, which are used by the military as well as in autos, household appliances and medical devices. Government officials said they expected the investments to create 700 construction and manufacturing jobs over the next decade.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Fuck yeah. American jobs and reducing dependence is always good.

I'm sure some will still complain though.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You are getting none of these chips for free. They are giving public money to a corporation listed on the stock market.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago

This is the big issue. I get it. I get why it's being done. At the same time holy shit am I tired of my money going to help the rich and kill people over seas, but we get told the poor don't deserve Healthcare and we can't afford to feed the kids in schools.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children)

I will keep reposting my thoughts on what's going on.

Xi told Biden that China plans to invade Taiwan. This is an act of diplomacy, giving the US a chance to prevent this from triggering WWIII.

China wants Taiwan for a myriad of reasons, not the least of which is TSMC, coupled with the AI embargo the US has levied on China. China must invade Taiwan if they want to be relevant in the tech sector 10 years from now.

Suddenly, Intel, who was once competitive with TSMC and now relies on them entirely, is telling us that "we will be beyond TSMC by 2024" really? No one's buying it. Sounds like a publicity headline to satisfy military brass or some senators or something.

Now we're investing directly in domestic chip manufacturing.

I'm surprised it's not more cash tbh.

The US is trying to effectively move TSMC operations to US soil, in some form or another.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago

A war over Taiwan is likely going to destroy Taiwan's domestic production. I would imagine this gets lumped in with things like steel production.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

I was also surprised by the low number, and thought it might be a "first installment" with a sunk-loss mindset. I would expect a number with a B behind it. The future of the world's economy, assuming it doesn't all crash due to climate change, may be dependent on this investment.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

It does seem like removing reliance on Taiwanese fabs is the name of the game. Which is especially bad news for them.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (2 children)

"Hey, look! We're giving millions of dollars of taxpayer money to a private for profit business! Pretty cool right? ... It's, uh, it's gonna fight inflation." - campaign argument of the stupid asshole administration I'm going to vote for later this year because the other guy wants to be a dictator

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

The article makes no mention of inflation besides pointing out what the chip shortages caused in the auto industry.

This is to reduce our dependence on foreign chip manufacturers to reduce the risk of it happening again when China invades Taiwan.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I'm not an expert on this subject, but it seems the majority of the jobs would betemporary. They loop construction and manufacturing into a single number. Would be interested to see how many "permanent" jobs are being created with this money, and maybe even a ROI/break even time scale on those tax dollars.

I assume the vast majority of operations within any microchip factory will be robotic/automated. Meaning a large percentage of that 700 is likely on the construction side. Not poo pooing those per say, but makes it harder to see the full picture.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I think reducing dependency is a huge gain here and probably the more important point. We all saw what happened with the shortages.

Beyond that, I don't know what the portion is that is construction. There might be a lot of oversight and QA positions. But even temporary jobs are good. If it takes a year to build, people are getting paid for a year.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Right, hence "not poo pooing those jobs" as they are certainly important, and construction jobs are always temporary (unless they're apparently road construction ones :) )

It's just always vague the net new in that area.

No doubt, getting more important manufacturing in country is a big win.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

While there is a lot of automation on the factory floor, there is still a ton of support staff needed, particularly for maintenance of the hardware and infrastructure.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Super stoked at the possibility of actually being able to buy machines made in the USA instead of "figuratively thought about in California" like most electronics these days. Toyota cars have more percentage of a car being both designed and built in the US than an Apple iPhone, for example.

However, not really looking forward to the environmental impact in Colorado, Oregon and beyond. Most of Silicon Valley is all to this day toxic superfund sites from the damage caused by electronics manufacturing in the 1980s and 1990s. The groundwater is contaminated and there have been incidents like toxic gases leaking into new modern Google office buildings. Selfishly, preferring the US be free of those production contaminants, but holistically, that just moves (and until now has moved) the problem to Taiwan anyway.

Definitely happy to be proven wrong here, and that chip fab is less toxic than it once was, but also skeptical as the US is generally pretty "pro-business-before-citizen-health" and always has been. They'll gladly plug their ears and go "la la la" to say "the economy is strong" before giving two shits about We The People. (See: radiation contamination, PFAS, and other superfund sites already present in states such as Colorado.)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago

I had wondered what companies? Why are they not listed?

It is a single company called Microchip Technology.

So, yeah.