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Apple Vision Pro tipped for late Jan/early Feb release::Apple oracle Ming-Chi Kuo offered an early holiday gift, narrowing down what he believes will be a “late-January/early-February” release.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 10 months ago (4 children)

I know which one I'd rather go for.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yeah I'd personally grab an Index, even if that means less chicken nuggets.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

I love my index.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Almost all cars I’ve ever bought have been less than that.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

It was hard for me to choose, but the nuggets sealed the deal.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Despite the weird ass launch trailer that Apple put out there before, I'm kind of hopeful that this product does well to spur some sort of innovation in the VR/AR space. Professionally, I could see it being useful for product design as a way of getting a look at design concepts or showing stuff off to marketing, maybe even useful for Star Wars-esque Zoom/Teams meetings. On a personal level though, I'm not sure what I'd use it for that I wouldn't already be using my regular VR headset for. If they can come out with some banger VR games or apps that might help. The trailer didn't really give any good use cases for it, just some dad weirdly reliving some moments with his dead kids or something. Maybe you could have a Blade Runner-esque personal companion/assistant that you'd be able to see with it, coupled with improvements to AI (not just another useless Siri implementation).

I think a dream AR app would be something that let you "re-skin" the world, you could overlay custom art/models overtop of anything that was there in the real world to re-make reality to whatever you wanted it to be. So if you wanted to try redesigning your house, you could try it out in AR first to see how well it worked. Or if you wanted to change up your office workspace to have a bunch of NSFW furry paintings on the wall or anti-corporate graffiti on the walls, you could do that. Or you could even alter how specific people/animals looked. Replace random strangers faces with celebrities or make the world look like an anime. Tired of your dog, make them into a dragon instead. The possibilities would be endless.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

I've heard that, with AR, Microsoft HoloLens is very useful when you can bring in the blueprints for the house you're standing in.

You get a sort of super x-ray vision of what should be where in the walls.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

You are correct your dream ar app thoughts are dead on thats a billion dollar idea - I am sure someone is working on it!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (2 children)

It’s astounding. The same reason why the Steamdeck is better than the Asus and Lenovo imitation handhelds is why people will want the Apple Vision Pro compared to building your own headset and PC. Yet just because it’s Apple, all the edgelords are out in force refusing to see why a product combining existing technologies for you is better for the masses than one you cobble together yourself.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Well that's in the fact that it's stupidly expensive. It might be worth the price but it's still far too expensive for most people to be able to afford.

Also it's basically only available in the US which is a weird decision given that Europe has so many high profile game studios.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Keep coping.

If early 90s' Apple did that, I could have some hopes, but this - no.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Apple oracle Ming-Chi Kuo offered an early holiday gift on December 24, narrowing down what he believes will be a “late-January/early-February” release date for the system.

The analyst says that the first wave of Vision Pros are being shipped to Apple in about a month, with total shipments numbering around 500,000 for the full year.

About a month after the device was revealed, reports suggested that Apple has scaled back expectations from around one million to “fewer than 400,000.”

Not only is it an entirely new category and form factor for the company, it’s also prohibitively priced, even for customers accustomed to shelling out extra for apple products.

Add to that VR’s decades-long failure to live up to expectations, and you’ve got a big uphill fight on your hands.

Kuo refers to Vision Pro as “Apple’s most important product of 2024.” Given the years of speculation and all the time and money the company has no doubt poured into the headset, it’s a tough statement to argue.


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[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Honesty that's a really bad time to launch as most people will still be broke from Christmas.

Though it could be a plan to make it even more of a status symbol, so more people will budget or take out loans to get one.

Honesty though I don't think they will become a massive part of anyone's daily lives anytime soon. As imagine the theft of these things if people started wearing them in public, and sure they can put all the anti theft stuff into it they want, but that hasn't effected phone theft much.

But my big thing is what does it offer me I can't already do with my phone. The reason the smartphone was such a hit is it made so many things into one device and it is cheaper then getting all of those devices, and there is a genuine improvement in out and about life with one.

With a headset I don't really see what it does that I can't already do easily at home. I have a laptop and a TV and both of those are cheaper. There is the gaming aspect, but no killer titles in that space. And I do worry about the negative mental health effects of such a device.

So I wouldn't be surprised if this is a flop and this kind of tech only gets usage in specialist applications.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Lets be real, who is actually buying this 💀

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Same question people ask every time Apple enters a new market segment.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I’m also wondering who this is for, but I don’t need to know, I’ll find out. When the iPad came out I was like “LOL STUPID BIG PHONE” and now I’m airdropping shit to my iPad Pro so I can edit stuff better than I can on my computer.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Where is that video of Ballmer (then CEO of Microsoft) just laughing at the iPhone price tag… it was something like 3-5 times most other phones at the time, and IIRC the first version there were no carrier rebate.

People just like to feel edgy with sharing their opinion I guess.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

This seems like a bad time to release what is pretty much an ultra luxury device. I don't think anybody needs one, and it's a tough sell to the typical early-adopter, software developer crowd in the Bay Area who have been getting laid off in their tens of thousands for the last 18 months or more.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

The other problem is I would totally buy one, but Apple don't want to sell me it because I've committed the cardinal sin of not being American.

All round that's just a weird product. If it can do all that Apple claim and do it as well as Apple claim then it'll be an absolute game changer, but if that comes at a price that most people can't afford then what's the point? No one was ever in doubt that VR could be this good, the question was whether it could be this good at a reasonable price and the apparent answer is, no it can't.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

I won't buy one but I can see the market for it and believe it's going to be great.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Same people and companies that buy high-end headsets such as Varjo XR-4.