"You wouldn't pirate a train"
this post was submitted on 13 Dec 2023
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Is this a robbery?
No! It's a science experiment... computer science!
The robbery is what the train manufacturer did.
Then the hackers did a train robbery on the train robbery
Their leader, 'Dutch', had a good plan.
He also screamed at the screen "ONE! MORE! SCORE!"
"Train pirate" has got to be one of the steampunkiest job titles I've ever heard.
The government better sue the train manufacturer and protect these hackers. The hackers saved the state millions - possibly hundreds of millions.
Good opportunity for the new polish government to show that they're actually sane.
Holy shit. If I understand correctly, the trains were programmed to use their GPS sensors to detect if they were ever physically moved to an independent repair shop. If they detected that they were at an independent repair shop, they were programmed to lock themselves and give strange and nonsensical error codes. Typing in an unlock code at the engineer's console would allow the trains to start working normally again.
If there were a corporation-sized mirror, I don't know how NEWAG could look at itself in it.
They weren't doing anything smartphone manufacturers haven't been doing for years. Or those guys that make McDonalds ice cream machines.
With the difference that a government agency is operating these trains and that repairs are not cheap.
Governments (and the public sector in general) are treated way worse by companies than private customers who can far more easily switch to a competitor or influence others to do so
I wonder if they were taking notes from John Deere and the automotive industry or will it be the reverse here soon?
Just imagine all these vehicles that could be bricked for not going back to the stealerships for outrageous prices on parts and incompetent service.
Also the vehicles that could be disabled for not paying for device protection plan that allows your vehicle to operate safely. It would be a shame if your vehicle stopped working on your way to work or the hospital.
I suspect Tesla, BMW, and John Deere are the closest to this reality.
I sure hope the government doesn't help with another great cash for clunkers national program to get rid of more cars too old for these measures. Sure is a great way to drive new car sales though...
Add Mercedes to that list of companies close to doing this
I wonder if they'll be able to overclock those trains or install some mods.
The trains run DOOM.
I'm now imagining rgb trains. Mechanical turn styles, high refresh rate info screens, giant AIO coolers.
Plenty of modern rolling stock already has water cooled power electronics, oil-cooled transformers, and I'm sure there's RGB passenger information displays.
They also laugh at your little 120/140/200mm fans.
Okay, but now we need to upgrade those industrial fans to noctua
Let me introduce you to ebm-pabst.
"The president of Newag contacted me," Cieszyński wrote. "He claims that Newag fell victim to cybercriminals and it was not an intentional action by the company
Yes, those cybercriminals that once infiltrated in a business network, instead of stealing data or holding ransoms, hide multiple iterations in the code of a snippet that only benefits the corp. Sure, they exist
Also taking legal action against people who helped your customers resolve the consequences of such an attack seems perfectly normal and not at all contrary to that narrative.
It would be interesting to see if Alstom, Hyundai Rotem, and Stadler Rail are doing the same. They are sitting on billions in public sector contracts.
Stadler (sic)
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lmao.