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[–] [email protected] 81 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Crushed? Only bots and shills remain on Reddit. And old people. They're now the Facebook of forums.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 11 months ago (2 children)

moved to lemmy and never looked back.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago
[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

Same here

I’m trying to use lemmy more

[–] [email protected] 24 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Based on what I've seen, I bet more older and younger people jumped ship than Millenials. Boomers tend to stick to platforms, but IME Gen X is pretty willing to migrate.

It'd make an interesting survey; I suspect a surprisingly large percentage of "old people" on Lemmy.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago

I agree. I'm old enough to have a grey beard anyway. Lemmy reminds me of the way back BBS times. Just as terrible in many ways but also shows great promise.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

There are still some great forums around on niche topics. They do need an invested admin though. Our local PnP forum is so much better than the Discords.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Nah, you vastly overestimate the percentage of people of all ages that even care about anything that goes on like the protest. There are still a lot of people there, but it's nice that most of the "good" (not sure about the right word here, I think you get my meaning though) people left, and many came here.

IMO, Lemmy has gotten worse since a few months back, though. Many of the most irritating things of reddit have become more and more common. Misspellings, in titles especially, to a point where it's surely done on purpose for more "interraction", shitty spam, way to many bots, etc.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Did you deliberately write "to many bots" instead of "too many bots" in order to get this interraction?

Am I whooshing?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago

No it’s a self verification. Bots always write correctly and never intimidate, you fuckas.

[–] [email protected] 68 points 11 months ago (5 children)

There's a lot of people in this thread that are either slightly delusional or utterly gaslighting themselves.

Reddit is not going to die over this. Reddit was always full of bots and shills astroturfing, none of that was new. And while many great contributors have left the site for good, the traffic to the site hasn't really dropped. The vast majority of (actual) Reddit users were using the main site and app, despite how terrible both are.

Sure the quality of content has objectively dropped, but do you think Reddit cares as long as traffic doesn't?

We're all here talking about Reddit and saying how shit it is now, how spez can go fuck himself, having ourselves a great little circle jerk, but Reddit gives no fucks.

It's time to get over our ex. She's moved on, she doesn't miss us and it's time we moved on too.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Fully agree.

What I'd also add is that a lot of people on here truly miss the point of why people use the likes of Twitter and Reddit over their fediverse alternatives - federation is a feature, not a selling point. Most people care about content, not about whether your instance is independent or free from corporate control.

Let Reddit do their thing, and focus on your own. If you want people to give a shit about Mastodon or Lemmy, make them better.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Exactly, content is and always will be king. For better or worse, that "highly curated" front page of Reddit will be curated to draw as many people in as possible. We don't have the luxury of algorithms or a full moderation team to weed out the spam ana the chaff, we only have ourselves. Its our Greatest superpower and we should leverage it where we can.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago

It reminds me of Netflix's habit of cancelling great shows and imstead making more and more trash TV because that's what is getting more views. It's what the masses who don't care that much want. Reddit, like Netflix, are chasing the broadest possible user base as possible. I used to go to Reddit for neat conversations about niche topics. Then it became an echo chamber of one liners and memes, which while fun, is antithetical to what I originally was there for.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Precisely. I've stopped being sore over corp social media, because there's no point: it's never going to change. Before I was on the fedi, I mostly lurked and consumed, but in here I feel like I'm putting down real roots and contributing to a living culture.

I don't know what the future of the internet is, but I know the bad path is further corporate capture and centralisation. If it's going to be something I want to participate in, it's going to be those parts which are decentralised.

PS this is my phone account with Sync so I can't post from this one yet.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I definitely have more fun here than I did on reddit in years.

I miss my local subreddit and my niche interest subreddits, but we're getting there in terms of content.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago
[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

TBH I still use reddit sometimes. The level of debate may be trash, but it's useful for niche stuff.

Eg. still haven't found a fediverse alternative for /r/panelshows.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Lemmy's specific communities for games is also non-existant. People didn't come here, they went to Discord.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

You say that but reddit shadow bans any accounts mentioning Lemmy .

Clearly they care

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I probably shouldn't say this, but 10 years ago I worked for a company and my boss and I discussed and prototyped a bot to shill for our clients on reddit automatically, including finding optimal posting times by karma and using their search to find best subreddits to post in.

We didn't do it because if reditors found out and got mad our clients would dump us.

Around that time /r/Ineedit and a bunch of other shill subs came out that were just totally AstroTurf.

Bots have been on reddit for a long long time.

[–] [email protected] 53 points 11 months ago (1 children)

They may have crushed the protest, but I'm still on Lemmy.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This, it's no longer relevant to me if they succeed or fail.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago

1 million percent agree. I never realized how reddit just seems like yo mama and fart jokes rolled up into... well, reddit.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If I had to give them any credit, at least on Reddit this would be an article, and not a shitty YT vid

[–] [email protected] 27 points 11 months ago

A 26 minute video nonetheless. With enough content to be read in 2-4 minutes, tops.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 11 months ago

The Astro turfing on Reddit is pretty unsettling. Especially when you understand just how much the front page is curated

[–] [email protected] 20 points 11 months ago

"Administrative privileges on a centralized platform." I shortened it.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 11 months ago

They "crushed the protest" in the same way the captain of the Titanic solved the iceberg issue. Silencing the people who point out the ship is going to crash and trying to ignore the passengers leaving in droves is not going to make the iceberg disappear, but it keeps the people at the buffet entertained and clueless up until everything goes down.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago

Thanks for reminding me to delete my account