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Why is it illegal to pass someone on the right on the highway in the US? In Canada if there’s a three lane highway which, in my case, isn’t very prominent, there’s really no law that enforces it, it’s more of a respect thing here on two lane highways both ways if someone is going slow in the left lane to go into the right but I’m just curious as to why it’s actually enforced in the US?

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It’s not enforced in the US at all.

Just like how keeping to the right except to pass isn’t.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

These are both state-level laws and vary across the country.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There are but I've never seen it enforced. I've watched cops get stuck behind people in the left lane who aren't passing (presumably because they'd have to exceed the speed limit to do so and there was a cop behind them) even though the law was that you couldn't go more than a certain distance in the left lane without passing someone. This happened dozens of times.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I was living in Colorado a few years back as a new teenage driver and the law, which I was at the time unaware of, was indeed enforced upon me. Granted I didn't get a ticket, but I was pulled over and handed a warning slip from the police officer.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

That depends on how the cops feeling. A guy I used to work with got pulled over for doing the speed limit in the left lane for "impeding traffic"

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This needs to happen way more often.

[–] chris 7 points 1 year ago

If I were a traffic cop, I’d pretty much just enforce this one law. All day. Every day. Left lane squatter? Straight to jail.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's the passing lane, not the speed limit lane. Glad he got a ticket.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Dude was old and drove like an ass. I used to tell him he was gonna get his driver's license taken away and he was gonna have to drive the forklift home on the shoulder of the highway every day lol

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There's a cop in Wells, Nevada that likes to drive ten under the speed limit and then pull people with out of state license plates over for "passing a cop". So, y'know, a lot of traffic rules are arbitrary.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Limit's 55. I'd be doing 55. He was doing 45. He wrote 70 on the ticket. It was cheaper to pay than to travel 800 miles to contest the ticket, which had to be done in person. So yeah, he made it illegal.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And was probably just waiting for you to lose your cool so he could make it much worse for you

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Oh definitely. Dad made us do martial arts at the local police captain's dojo so we knew how to handle ourselves around police. Also because he needed to bribe them after taking a wrongful death case against a local cop and they kept pulling him over for "broken" taillights. It was an enlightening experience.

[–] astraeus 2 points 1 year ago

They weren’t broken before you pulled me… cracks here’s my license and registration.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I was just going back through some of my replies.

Jesus criss Angel. Dad trained us in martial arts in the fucking dojo that the police captain owned.

Let's stop right there

You are a liar. I hope you don't do this in person and get it all out online.

Fuck you. Fuck pathological lying and all liars and the lies they say.

Get help or else you fucking shit bag liar.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

That's a bitch of a cop.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago

I don't know about the US, but in Germany the right lane is for getting on and off the high way, so going very fast there might be dangerous. It also just makes things less chaotic, traffic becomes more predictable and driving less exhausting.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

It’s to make the standard practice passing on the left, so people aren’t surprised by someone passing on the right. Since drivers sit on the left, another vehicle approaching on that side is easier to see.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

It probably depends on the state, but in mine the restriction on passing on the right is for two-lane or unmarked roads. It is not applicable to multiple lanes in the same direction.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Slower moving traffic should be on the right. So to pass someone you should need to move to the left lane. In some states in the US it is also illegal to be in the left lane unneeded, and I known of cops that would use the justification of being in the left lane to pull someone over even if it not illegal.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Slower moving traffic should be on the right.

I think this was the thought process, but it's just not true in my experience. All the highways where I live are 4+ lanes. I go with with the flow of traffic. If I slow down to stubbornly not pass the person on my left, I'm really gonna fuck up the traffic flow.

On a 2 lane highway, I'll only pass on the right if the person in the left lane is completely oblivious that there are a line of people behind them and don't move over.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yea the whole thing breaks down because people don't keep right when they're not passing. They pick a middle or left lane and squat in it at whatever speed they're cruising at (assuming they're even paying enough attention to maintain a steady speed) and clog everything up. If people were doing wht they were supposed to you wouldn't be able to pass on the right because the people you're passing would be occupying that space in front of you.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If people were doing wht they were supposed to you wouldn't be able to pass on the right because the people you're passing would be occupying that space in front of you.

Maybe, but I'm not completely convinced. It's hard to apply that to all situations, especially when involving stop and go traffic, which is the majority of what I drove in until recently when I moved away from the city. Also, carpool lanes really fuck that up, too.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A big part of why stop and go traffic happens in the first place is because people don't follow it. At least on the highway where stoplights aren't a factor.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I'm just not convinced. It seems like stop and go traffic is caused by having 4 million people all leaving work at the same time while trying to use the same 3 highways. And merging lanes. That causes stop and go traffic as well.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

4 million people all leaving work at the same time while trying to use the same 3 highways

This is why it's so important for people to follow the rules regarding lane usage in order to achieve as much throughput as possible.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

It's not a law in Ohio. I consider myself a pretty safe driver as my job requires me to drive a lot in a van full of chemicals and I can say it's best to pass on the left for at least 2 reasons. First, driving in a predictable manner is key for making the roads safer for everyone. Second, as driver you have a better view of the lane you are merging onto since you are seated on the left side. Imagine passing a semi trailer on the right. If there is stopped traffic in the right lane you are less likely to see it.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

There are laws to enforce it, but actual enforcement is light.

As to why this is a law, it comes down to safety. It is generally safer that traffic speeds have a gradient in one direction. The left lanes are less likely to see merging of traffic and the driver is on the left side, making it easier for the driver to notice passing traffic.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

In Europe (in my case the Netherlands, but it's similar in surrounding countries) you cannot pass on the right and you can get fined for it. If you do pass on the right you're taking a bigger risk because it is not expected.

You can also get fined for staying in the left or middle lane for too long. But that's somewhat rare. You can get away with it a bit to pass an extra truck (our trucks speed limit is slower) or if the right lane is full and slower than the lane to the left of it, but don't drive excessively slow on the left. Especially on the Autobahn.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

20 years ago I asked my dad this and he said it was because if you pass on the right and then try to merge back into the left lane, any mistakes force you (or the other car) into oncoming traffic.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

That's good reasoning from your dad.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's a state thing, some states it's illegal some it's fine

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Is there a specific reason? Or is it more of a “just because” law?

[–] vrek 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Generally your blind spot is larger on the right side(especially on tractor trailers) so it's more likely to result in an accident.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I think it's also about being predictable and consistent. Generally, slow traffic stays to the right and fast traffic stays to the left. Breaking convention increases the chance of surprises and accidents.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

There are laws about passing on the right in Ontario:

Section 150 of Ontario’s Highway Traffic Act states that using the right lane for passing a car in the left lane is legal as long as it can be done safely and one of the following conditions be met.

The law states the car you’re passing must be making or signalling a left turn; that the road must be wide enough for two lanes of traffic in both directions; or that the highway be designated for one-way traffic only.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/drive/mobility/article-is-it-legal-and-safe-to-pass-in-the-right-lane/

So it's straight up legal on multilane highways. Which I didn't know.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

It's more dangerous, if you're about to pass a vehicle which limits your vision like a semi, box truck, delivery van, etc. and you can't really see what's ahead of you in the right lane, if you're sitting in the left side of the vehicle, you won't get good visibility until you are a decent amount of the way into the lane already.

By the time you're far enough In to see what's ahead of you it may be too late to switch back if there's a slow vehicle and you can rear end them. Passing on the left you can see what's ahead by just moving close to the left and craning your head a bit.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

No passing on the right law is combined with obligatory moving to the slower right if that lane matches your speed more.

This creates lanes with different speeds without the need for swerving between slower cars. And you can choose the lane(speed) you're most comfortable with without being disturbed. This contributies to a more steady and safer flow of traffic.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It’s actually not illegal in Texas. At least according to the cop that pulled me over for flashing my lights at someone doing 55 in the left lane when the speed limit was 70. He told me to just go around it’s not illegal.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

It's not illegal in Oregon either and I actually looked up the statute to confirm.

You seriously got pulled over for flashing your lights at a left lane camper? I thought it was actually codified in law down there (or maybe one of the neighboring states) that you can flash your light to indicate your desire to pass.