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This community's icon was made by Aaron Schneider, under the CC-BY-NC-SA 4.0 license.


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We hope this logo will look more friendly to people πŸ’–

Thanks again to @[email protected] for their great work!

Beehaw!

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[–] [email protected] 66 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I get that it aligns the imagery more with the whole aesthetic but I can't help but be bummed for the little outgoing bee rustler. I really liked her

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

There will always be groups of people who prefer the old and new. With more cohesive branding with our community logos and eventually a lemmy theme, I'm hoping we can rotate logos semi-regularly as a way to represent the diversity of our website and to help support amazing local artists.

But that's just my thoughts on it, in this case it was a logo commissioned for a specific purpose (app icon), and we wanted to align with that and celebrate new and great art (as well as continue to support the artist who's helped us with all our community icons!)

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I’m sure there’s a place where she could still work… like maybe the 404 page or the maintenance page?

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We'll look into places for this to exist

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

This feels like an answer for a trivia question years down the line.

"Fun fact, the 404 page bee is actually the old logo from way back in the day!"

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

That sounds like a good idea. Sometimes when I'm not able to visit the site, it's nice to have a different piece of artwork there, to still share a part of Beehaw even when it isn't able to connect to you at the moment.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

There are a few examples that come to mind of rotating brand elements, both large and small, that make me think there's a lot of potential to give a place and community some flavor and fun. I get the vibe you're already on board with this kind of thing, but for the sake of putting it on record and giving everyone else a sense of what's possible, I think it'd be cool to give a sense of the kind of things we can do in the future. Admittedly I'm 99% sure that these ideas are impractical, if not impossible, with Lemmy's current UI abilities. Still, I think it may be good for the community to keep stuff like this in the backburner in case the potential opens up. This is spit balling, admittedly. Hopefully spit balling we'll be able to act on eventually, though.

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I remember Apollo for Reddit had a massive library of app icons that users could independently choose from. There was what I would call the primary mark and a few color or smaller derivatives of that, but there were also some wildly different ideas that were loosely tied to one another. Some were closely aligned with the original Apollo, others were barely connected to that visual identity. Either way, Chris got a lot of artists involved in the app icons aspect to Apollo. I forgot if they were commissioned or if it was some part of a community volunteering bit, but it was a cool way to add another touch of customizing and involvement to the app.

Newgrounds is an example that I think goes even farther than Apollo. There are visual elements that remain consistent, like the logo, logotype, and site iconography. But every so often (IIRC, something like once a month or once a season,) they'll bring in a community member to change up most of the site's color scheme and the site's padding graphics. I can't seem to get the Wayback Machine to load a good capture on my end, so I went ahead and took a screenshot for archrival's sake.

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I'm leaning toward saying that the new logo is an improvement, design wise. Digital icons, let alone content like tab icons, will always require some sacrifices in detail in order to be legible. This logo still has some legibility loss in smaller sizes (although I'll admit asking for that not to happen is a mighty tall order,) but I'm tempted to argue that it maintains its legibility better than the Bee Rustler. Mentioning visual unity with the community icons series is something I'd say is a plus, but if seasonal or community variants to the site logo is something that's explored later, it makes that point not quite as meaningful.

Bee Rustler was a cute lil' thing and I loved her as much as anyone else, but admittedly I'm not so sure her graphic was a good fit for a logo. Chances are, however, that this is the kind of thing that would be most completely resolved with a comprehensive brand set that can accommodate community flavoring in aspects of it when the time comes. I'd think that's getting well into long-term territory, however.

Issues aside with Bee Rustler being a catch-all logo solution, I doubt that Bee Rustler is going away entirely any time soon. Mascots, and more broadly the sense of characters within a community, have a way of maintaining staying power. There's going to be means and ways for Bee Rustler to show herself and still be part of the community lore, whether that's officially or through the user base. Like I've still gotta see the Bug Crusher through before I throw the towel, and I don't think that's gon' be the end of it from me or anyone else either 🀠.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

Im not going to lie 80% of my choosing this instance was the bee in a cowboy hat with the remaining 20% being that it wasnt run by tankies.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Agreed. This logo's all bee and no haw.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

I think we should adopt this phrase for posts/comments that don’t live up to the β€œbe(e) nice” standard. Example: β€œI understand that you’re upset, but that comment is all bee and no haw.”

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I didn't even realize it had a cowboy hat. But now that's its pointed out I get it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

It also had a lasso.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago

Fits well with the logos used for the communities. I do miss the bee in the cowboy gear though, I hope that image gets repurposed somewhere else on the site.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I like it! Unfortunately i did just afew days ago make a homemade sticker for my backpack based on the old logo, I guess I'll have to update it :)

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Now you can have two stickers.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Yeah :D

Or more likely wait until the first one falls off, homemade stickers are not as high quality as professional ones (at least mine aren't).

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

Ah damn πŸ˜”

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Reminds me of hive! I love it.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago

I mean, hard to go wrong with bestagon.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Same thought! I played the physical game once, and it was awesome when I found it on Steam.

[–] nieceandtows 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What was unfriendly about the old logo, if I may ask? I

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

To me, it kinda looked kinda of like a wasp about to sting you.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago

Dont start none, won't bee none.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

All these comments saying it's no longer a cowboy - look at their little pointy cowboy hat ~!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Not sure if this was intentional, but the way the hat curves up around the edges makes it look a little like a crown when the picture is downsized. A crown for a queen bee…

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I like the hexagon, matches the community icon shapes :) I'll surely miss the old logo, but that might just be(e) my human nature of resistance to change

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Resistance is futile.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I definitely prefer the older one!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Yeah, cowboy bee was my new little bee buckaroo.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

I like how it has a different color for its hexagon. It does make it distinct enough to look like the "main" icon.

Really like it myself, tbh. The cowboy hat does look more like a crown.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

I liked the old one, but this new one is super adorable too. Really seems like it would be a fantastic enamel pin.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

I like this one better than the old one. Great job!

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

I am immediately irrationally upset about a cartoon bee cowpoke.

Much more appropriate logo though, I like it.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

Not bad!

The old one was good as well though :)

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Oh

I'm going to miss the old thing :(

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Could you post a bigger version? I can’t see it very well on my phone.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

I love it! Perfect blend of simple, sleek, cute, and friendly.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Looks great!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

The honeycomb theme on every icon is a pretty swell idea. Bravo.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Shiny hatted bebby bee boi

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

This might be just me, but my first impression was the new logo felt more "aggressive"... like the bee is more confrontational by looking you straight into the eye and being ready to attack.

I think I like more the one on @[email protected] profile banner: less aggressive bee? ...with the moustache making it more cartoonish, and less "oh f*ck, a bee is trying to sting me!".

But again, this is just my personal impression, and some possible bee fobia.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Definitely prefer the new logo. The old one looked like a wasp, and therefore infinitely more aggressive and vengeful.

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