Grahics card started out like this as well...
this post was submitted on 16 Nov 2023
95 points (96.1% liked)
Technology
60082 readers
2534 users here now
This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.
Our Rules
- Follow the lemmy.world rules.
- Only tech related content.
- Be excellent to each another!
- Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day.
- Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted.
- Politics threads may be removed.
- No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments.
- Only approved bots from the list below, to ask if your bot can be added please contact us.
- Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed
Approved Bots
founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
How long until these M.2 SSDs get their own SATA power connector?
Seriously. I'm just wating for a 3,5" form factor SSD where most of the chassis is cooling and inside it's just a 2230m.2
8-Pin please.
it's just stupid... i don't need lights and fans on the SSD... i need it reliable and cheap and staying cool under workload.
At these speeds it's like asking a CPU to run cool under workload. Your options are:
Active cooling
Slower speeds
Transistor breakthrough
Transistor breakthrough it is!
i need it reliable and cheap and staying cool under workload.
Then you presumably just buy one that satisfies that requirement and not an overkill Gen 5 NVME.
I don't even like RGB case fans... no idea why they thought this was necessary.
The fans on the M.2... that's a bit of question mark for me. They do get rather warm and many high end ones come with heat sinks. Some older SSDs has huge issues with overheating and stalling, so it's an open question yet if fans on drives is actually required or if the case design and airflow through the case just needs to be addressed before we start slapping fans on m.2 drives.
Ok
Do PCIe 5.0 drives just put out that much heat?
I know a lot of boards have the m2 slot under the GPU, no way this would fit.
If, and that's a big if, this becomes a trend, then we're likely to see the m2 connector locations on the mobo change (at least the primary lane connected to the CPU).
But to your point, this definitely won't fit under a GPU lol
Yes, the ssd controller basically has double thr output of data each pci-e generation. The rate as well as the power consumption required to run at those speeds dump a lot of heat.
Pcie 4 drives generate enough heat as is. This is probably overkill and definitely just for show, but if you want sustained performance you definitely need some beefy cooling.
It seems like every generation of nvme drives requires insane cooling to start and then the second generation controllers come along and it is fine.
Doesn't it look like it's for PCI express?
Pci express is the communication standard. M.2 is the connection.
This form factor has existed for about 10 years at this point.
Idk what you think those drives are made of.
Definitely not SATA or IDE.
Yeah just thought it looked more PCI-e. Well well.
It's less about how much heat they are generating and more about how on most case builds, the m.2 is getting little to no air flow, so ambient temp of the case is the only thing allowing it to move heat away from the components.
This thing is just a gawdy nightmare for someone who just really wants all the bells and whistles even if they don't really add benefit.
Yeah, even with a heatsink and blasting my case fans at max my m.2 SSD hovers around 50 degrees idle. It's getting to the point I'm seriously considering taking off the side panel and pointing a fan straight at the motherboard to keep it cool.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
While there's definitely an argument to be made about RGB overload, there's no doubt that colored lights can make a component stand out, whether on the shelf or in your system.
So it's no surprise that PNY is trying to appeal to the masses by giving you some aesthetic options with its latest XLR8 CS3150 PCIe 5.0 NVMe SSD.
So far, all PCIe 5.0 SSDs with Phison chips are either provided with passive cooling such as the Aorus Gen 5 and the Crucial T700, or with a heatsink pre-installed and a tiny fan like Micro-Center's in-house brand Inland TD510.
Naturally, it depends on how the cooling is designed to complement the chips and their layout, as well as how much air is already circulating in your case and around your M.2 slot.
But one of the appealing aspects of an M.2 drive has been its thin form factor, which can hidden away under motherboard shrouds, like a six-M.2-slot ASRock Z790 Nova WiFi.
In the meantime, Corsair sells a liquid cooling block for this 2280 form factor NVMe drive, which reminds me of the days of squeezing performance from Intel's Prescott Pentium 4 processors, which were inefficient for their time.
The original article contains 637 words, the summary contains 199 words. Saved 69%. I'm a bot and I'm open source!
What's next, they'll be able to dance and play fiddle?
The rgb is just to be able to sell this without having to solve the heating problem. Vote with your wallet lads.