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[–] [email protected] 160 points 11 months ago (9 children)

It's an accessibility thing. If you can't press two keys at once, then you can turn it on and press the modifier key, then the active key.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 11 months ago (3 children)

It would be nice if the default wasn't being on, or it asked during installation or something.

[–] [email protected] 83 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I bet someone who needs it likes that it's on by default.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 11 months ago (2 children)

This is a rare case of an accessibility feature often being someone's roadblock...

[–] [email protected] 39 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's a hell of a lot easier to disable than it is to enable, especially if you're not disabled. It's a minor inconvenience once for us, but enabling it could be exceedingly difficult to overcome for someone else.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (5 children)

Yea, a disabled person might have to get help to enable sticky keys if it wasn't on by default. Most non-disabled people should not need help, unless they are so tech illiterate that they don't know how to use Google.

It's a small annoyance that gets less annoying if you look at it from an empathetic viewpoint.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It asks when you do it the first time lol, although asking at installation might be a better idea

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

Eh, many people use computers but are not the ones who installed the operating system (e.g. work, school, library, etc.). I think it's likely more accessible to be able to enable the feature at any time, if needed. In my experience pressing shift five times generally only happens to me when playing games. I don't know how often it pops with normal web browsing, email, etc.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago

I usually have it turned off. But I found it kinda useful once that I had a cast in one hand.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

There’s also no reason for a game to inadvertently trigger it. All games should clear the SKF_HOTKEYACTIVE flag on launch to disable the feature trigger during gameplay. Unreal, Unity, and most other engines do this by default.

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[–] [email protected] 70 points 11 months ago

Sticky keys is it so that when you press the modifier keys (control, shift, alt/option and win/meta/super/command), you won't need to hold them in order to activate a keyboard shortcut.

It's an accessibility feature designed to make it easier for people who may have trouble using a keyboard to activate keyboard shortcuts.

[–] [email protected] 60 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

As a tetraplegic person, sticky keys are my lifesaver. I can only push one button at a time on my keyboard. Thanks to sticky keys, I can write grammatically correct and use key combinations.

That's what sticky keys is made for. Normally, it shouldn't be active on default though, on my computers it never was. I always had to turn it on.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The shortcut to activate them is active by default and windows will display a notification when you press shift 5 times (I think) asking you about it. That happens a lot when you play some games.

Easy enough to turn off the notification though. So not sure what OP is fussing about.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

For me, it's a one time annoyance each time I setup a new computer or reformat mine. I never think about it till the shortcut triggers, and then I disable it. Not world ending, but kinda annoying, and less tech savvy won't know or realize they can disable it despite it saying so in the popup. But I'd be more satisfied if the notice to turn it on would just pop into the notification bar instead of an interrupting popup that must be addressed to return to what you were doing. Sure, let us know about it, but don't pull us out of what we're doing. I in general hate any feature that interrupts your work to make you interact with it instead unless it is extremely critical, and this notification is not.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It isn't on by default, but pressing shift I think 5 times fast in a row is a shortcut not even to turn it on, but to display a pop-up asking you if you want to turn it on.

You can disable that though. However it still seems like something that shouldn't be happening by default, since no one is going to want to use it without knowing about it, and at that point opt-in seems better with how easy it is to do accidentally.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The thing about accessibility features is that they need to be accessible.

It is much easier for a regular person to disable them than for a disabled or old person to enable them.

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

Fun fact: A common way to get access to SYSTEM (higher than admin) privileges on Windows is the sethc exploit, where you replace sethc (the program that shows the sticky keys dialog) with command prompt, and it gets started as SYSTEM, the only thing needed is write access to System32, which can either be from an admin account or by editing the file system externally. This also allows opening a command prompt on the login screen, allowing some cursed things, like if you start explorer.exe on the login screen it combines the desktop and login screen.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I used to do this to make a hidden account on my computer to bypass my parents' screen time restrictions

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I did this in college with windows 7. I don't think it works on 10, but could be mistaken.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago

I helped an elderly man get back into his pc doing a variation of this.

Changed the accessibility magnifier function to comman prompt. Was able to log in and create another user account after he lost access to a password.

So not sure about that one specifically bit a variation worked on 10.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago (2 children)

It worked in win10 a few years ago when I was working in IT...

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago

That's a common way to reset password for the accounts, among osk.exe file replacement

[–] [email protected] 48 points 11 months ago (5 children)

Is this a windows joke I'm too linux to understand?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yes if you hold "shift" for 5 seconds, it will attempt to turn on sticky keys, which makes individual key strokes act like if you were holding them down. Individually pressing ctrl, alt, del with sticky keys is like pressing ctrl+alt+del

[–] [email protected] 46 points 11 months ago (9 children)

Correction because I'm annoying: it's when you press shift 5 times in a row. It would be terrible if just holding it down for 5 seconds activated it, haha

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

KDE has an option to enable them if you want.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago

Its a rite of passage for any computer with a freshly installed windows

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I can’t remember the last time I had a sticky keys issue.

However, Win10 randomly deciding to background/minimize my game for absolutely no reason is definitely a thing. Nothing like having to alt-tab back into your game to find yourself dead when you stopped moving in the middle of a firefight.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)

File explorer just casually says hello during a full screen game and overrides the active window.

One of the reasons I use linux now. Now I get to break absolutely everything if I'm not careful.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (2 children)

"Let me just install this mouse driver while trying not wreck my audio driver…“

"Aaand I’ve broken 28 pixels“

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 11 months ago

As someone who has had shitty laptop keyboards with fucked up keyboards. I got some actual use out of the feature throughout the years and I have to say it's quite nice.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Would you like to enable sticky keys?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Gah, no! I'm never going to want to. Stop asking.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Tell me OP is 14 years old without telling me OP is 14 years old.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 11 months ago

Well, for anyone who can't hold multiple keys at once for any reason. If they are unable to hold CTRL and shift at the same time from hand injuries or something then that's what the sticky keys are for.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago (4 children)

A similar thing I've run into where a feature that usually wouldn't get activated much gets in the way because of games making you input weird patterns is the Windows language swap hotkey, alt-shift. I play a game that uses alt and shift a lot, and involves quite a bit of typing, so I kept getting confused why my language was suddenly different. Took me ages to find out why.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago

I don't know that there's a point to them, so much as I just lose all motivation and fall straight to sleep after finishing my porn sessions.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Can someone finally explain to me what sticky keys mean?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You know how when you press the caps button on your phone keyboard, it Capitalizes the next character you type? It's that, but on a physical keyboard. Normally you have to hold the shift key, but stickykeys lets you just tap it.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago (4 children)
[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago (2 children)

caps lock but that toggles itself off after a single character. it's made for people who have dexterity issues and cannot hold multiple keys at the same time.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago (2 children)

It only lasts for one character, it works on all characters (for instance Caps Lock won't change a "2" India an "@"), and it also works for other modifier keys like "Ctrl" and "Alt."

It's an accessibility feature. If you only have 1 hand, for instance, some shortcuts would be impossible without it.

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