Star Trek

It may be forever smaller

I would honestly consider this a feature, not a bug.

Most social media runs by the 90/9/1 rule. 90% of users lurk, 9% of users post, 1% of users produce content.

I'm hoping that this house cleaning changes those numbers up some.

I know that a lot of people are afraid to post. They may not believe that they have anything interesting to say. And they may not trust their ability to write coherently. Some of you folks are intimidatingly good at writing insightful posts and making it understandable to everybody.

Maybe with a smaller community we can encourage more people to take part and, paradoxically, become more diverse.

I'd also like to encourage everybody to attempt to post something interesting. A pet theory. A reinterpretation of a scene. It doesn't really matter. You can only get better by doing and we all benefit from new ideas. Don't be afraid to sound like a fool. It's kinda my default state and I'm still here.

That's cos the ones who wanted to leave are here lol

I don't know. I haven't been back since the day the move was announced. So if they have decided to reopen, be it old mods or not, all the power to them. I don't care any more.

I think this is a important take - as far as users are concerned Reddit merely hosts the content and the community, but as far as Reddit is concerned it owns the content and wants to monetise the community.

The problem for Reddit is the moderation is done by users who do it for free, mostly because they love their communities and want to keep them going. Those people are not easy to replace - plenty of communities shut because no one wanted to moderate them, and plenty of users just aren't interested. So if they lose the moderators, there is a small pool of people to replace them and many of those may not be motivated in the same way. There will also be bad actors amongst those untested moderators.

Lose the moderators, and the communities fall apart as bad content, rule breaking and negative behaviour takes hold. The "content" becomes lost and the value of what reddit things it owns falls massively. An archive of old reddit comments is actually not worth much - sure people google things and find answers on Reddit - but it's the current active users and daily content that draws people in.

I think Reddit is doomed as it is failing to understand it's own business and what made the site successful.

Oh, reddit will survive, it'll just be even shittier than before. And maybe it'll bounce back to somewhere close to what it was, but in the meantime, there's now a growing viable alternative.

My recommendation for anyone who decides to visit reddit adopt a comment signature promoting startrek.website along with a link to a new user tutorial and a quick explanation of why we left. Keep picking them off and make our existence common knowledge over there.

That's probably a good guess. Either that or trying to sell it to them somehow.

This is pretty much what I think as well. I migrated to here mostly because I think that the root and core of the Community has done the same, and r/startek was one of the few places where you could still talk Star Trek without unreasonable whining.

I think it won't be overnight, but there's probably a sea change coming where more and more people are getting fed up with gigantic centralized platforms and all the manipulation and trolling that the companies operating them are all too happy to let go on. I seriously doubt the mods are going to get their way on Reddit, but I suspect it's going to get even less worth visiting from here on out.

Why is everything good always marginal.
I'm tired of getting treated awfully.

"If people want to stay on Reddit despite everything, that’s up to them in the end. Reddit won’t be the same, and some subs will be a shadow of their former selves when they lose the mods, but people are allowed to stay if they want."

This is my belief, too. Only you took about 900 fewer words than me to state it, heh.

This here is my new Star Trek home, and I'm liking it. I think wanting new mods, especially those that toe the reddit company line, is a "be careful what you wish for" situation. I don't even want to know what sort of things I never had to see because of moderation. I think moderating is hard work and a labor of love. I've quit r/startrek, and I don't wish them ill. Their future is their own. My Star Trek community future is here. LLAP.

There'll always be people who thrive in that sort of environment. Very recently someone said he was going to block me because I didn't agree with him on how PIC S3 is 'stupid fan pandering and NotTrueTrek' and instead asked what he would suggest as an alternative if in charge. I.e. some people are in it for the ranting and internet fighting.

All pictures, videos, and discussion must have John Oliver in them somewhere.

I'm loving the malicious compliance arch

Yes, some mods deleted their accounts and came here permanently, but evidently the remaining mods decided to reopen. This was not expected, but not much we can do about it now.

Yes, but reddit can undo it. A little while back, /r/KotakuInAction was nuked by the head mod, who had not been an active moderator for years. He deleted all content and set the subreddit to private. However, since his actions were malicious and the rest of the mods could only watch since he was above them in the mod order, reddit admins removed him from the mod list and restored the subreddit to before the mod went crazy. This is likely the same logic they'll use to reopen the subs, only it doesn't work since it's not the work of one rogue mod, but the mod team as a whole.

No, it is not possible to completely delete a subreddit.