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Unfortunately it seems really common for any new social media platform to lean way too hard into wither the far left or right, instead of finding a middle ground where a wider range of political views can coexist.
But hey, if we had to pick one extreme, then far left is a lot better than the far right nazi apps that crop up a lot.
They have been a lot of time here, they were here maybe one or two years before the reddit migration. In that scenery, apart from your own arguments against socialism, we can not oppose to that presence in the fediverse, they have been warm to welcome new people, and they are active part of community. We had to deal everyday with far-right in reddit, give yourself the opportunity to know something different.
One or two years? Communists built Lemmy from scratch dude.
Source: I was there.
the middle is necessarily right wing
If the left is "seize the means of production, eat the rich"
and the right "free market, corporations are good, pull yourself up by your own bootstraps"
then the middle would be what? Everything stay the same? if that's your answer, then the fact that capital ownership is protected under every single system on earth would mean that the middle helps capitalism
if the middle is reformism, then it is an ideology that distracts the working class from actual class war and crates reforms that can be taken away any time at all if the economy is bad, which by now should be clear that that will happen again and again, no matter what we try.
Why do you think rightists never complain about the "political center", but communists like me always rant about how stupid the idea is? It's because a centrist is useful to the right wing, and disruptive to everyone else
The middle ground is an open dialogue where people can coexist with opposing views and debate. The fast that you took me as meaning that everyone needed to be some kind of die hard centrist instead of just listening to opposing worldviews for once in your life is a great example of the problem.
I have no idea why OP is calling them leftists. They're not.
I agree, and as other comment mentioned: foss seems to appeal more to the left leaning. It'll probably get more balanced with time, though not like I want more rightwing circlejerks but that the extremes would get kinda buried under the masses of sane people.
It seems like FOSS apps just appeal more to the far left than any other political group. And that's coherent with all their other beliefs so it's only logical. The same thing happens on Mastodon, though it's less extreme. Could find some accounts of regional branches of the major left-wing party in my country, none center or right-wing.
The simple reality is, left wing views get minimised, distorted or outright censored in standard media like reddit. It's mostly just false flag stuff on reddit like calling liberals leftists or socialists. The only place to talk freely would be some tiny place in the middle of nowhere like a lemmy instance. Which makes supporting FOSS even more important.
Righties like to cry censorship, but its almost purely when they foam at the mouth and "accidentally" get too abusive, forcing the platform to save face and ban them. Standard corporate media will megaphone right wing views and give them free reign to be open nazis unless they go a step too far as I mentioned before.
Corporate interest IMO favors and spreads the far-right content. The only "big" far-right player I know on this space is Trump's truth-social (that used Mastodon code to have a fast Twitter clone, and they defederated themselves).
That will be interesting to watch: how much the far-right will appeal and spread in this more-leveled plainfield, without Big Tech help.
I'm going to remove this thread under rule #2. The topic is inherently political and some of the comments are getting rough.
Go to 4chan troll.
Hi! I'm a dirty communist from a dirty communist instance. Consider that these things aren't circlejerks, consider instead that generally we have the opinions that we do for a reason and when we discuss things, it might be a good faith discussion but your guard may (possibly for warranted reasons) be up. Please grant us the faith that it's not a circlejerk. I'm also open to answering any questions that might alleviate your (or anyone else reading's) notions that we are a circlejerk.
I said I was a capitalist and a 70% tax was absurd - nothing else - and the next three comments direct to me had the most horrific insults and threats of physical violence against me and my family, the server owners removed them. If youβre level-headed and want to debate the merits of each system, youβre by far the exception.
I donβt think the average terminally-online Marxist-Leninist revolutionary larper is representative of all communists.
I myself am a communist, and will gladly discuss these issues, without threats.
exploding-heads is this way, and truth social is that way, sir
Let me guess, you are a centrist who leans left on the softball social issues, but conservative in the fiscal ones.
You can change what instance you use to one that defederates with the places you don't want to participate with. Also, some apps allow you to hide specific instances through a UI option.
I'm not a fan of idea of completely getting cut out from parts of the fediverse because of ideological differences. Imo that just promotes further polarization. Though I might look into blocking couple instances if and when I get annoyed enough lol
Just unsubscribe / block those communities and posters.
I do it for all political content.
Can you give some examples? Different people have very different definitions of leftists, communists etc.
I swapped instances a couple of times because of federation with political instances. Highly recommend it.
I love how that aspect works here. I'd like to see that really improve over time as people spread out.
It's actually my least favourite aspect. People are going to carve out their own little bubbles everywhere where only people with exactly the same political beliefs hang out, never getting exposed to any counter arguments and constantly oversimplifying offoposing worldviews as they drift further to extremes.
Other social media platforms have this happen a lot, but Lemmy really lets you choose to stick your head in the sand with very little effort.
While I donβt agree with either extremes, Iβm much more comfortable with hard left than hard right. Hard left isnβt actively established and trying to foment genocide in real time.
Im seeing this stuff just now. The timing of the posts is the same as the system compromise over the last 8 hours. My instinct says they are related.
The Reddit exodus didn't help things.
From my understanding, lemmy practically started out heavily left leaning and got progressively more regressive as redditfolk migrated over.
Yep, noticed that