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If lemmy had user-defined filters, I'd use them. Right now I'm downvoting the stuff, but there's already a community for musk-related stuff: [email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 130 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes!

Please yes.

I'm tired of seeing the same story of that chode in six or seven different communities.

[–] [email protected] 62 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wait you mean you don't want to hear the next pricing plan for twitter? Aren't you a tech enthusiast???

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

As much as I enjoy watching the ~~world~~ Xitter burn, there’s a limit to everything.

[–] [email protected] 72 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Musk has already been banned as a topic on tech communities in 4 instances I’ve seen personally. I get folks are tired of him and I find him insufferable, but he is often relevant (unfortunately) to current events, so I don’t think wholesale bans of him are a good idea. There are plenty of topics I find annoying, but I don’t tell people to ban the topic from the community just for my personal preference.

Like I think trump is a cringe inducing piece of shit and don’t enjoy seeing him everywhere. I’d love a filter, I don’t expect communities to ban him as a topic.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Yeah but relevant to current tech events? Not that often.

It's complicated I guess.

Musk offering starlink access to gaza is tech news, him changing subscription prices for xitter is not.

I guess I just mean that a happening is not "tech" by virtue of musk saying it.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

He owns starlink, Twitter, Tesla, and SpaceX. Whether we like it or not all of these have huge bearings on their respective industries.

And before people started hating musk, again rightfully so I’m embarrassed I ever liked him, you couldn’t go a day without something about SpaceX and people getting all excited. This is purely about the person, not the relevance of the topics.

If y’all could somehow come up with a nuanced soft ban on “his personal life“ and politics or whatever, I guess that’s a decent compromise? But that just sounds tedious and people will bicker. And also his politics unfortunately have an impact on how Twitter is run, so you would have to find ways to separate those things out. It’s just seems kind of needless.

I mean imagine if we couldn’t spread the word/learn of what he was doing with his starlink satellites and Ukraine/Russia. That stuff is really important.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The nuanced soft ban you're talking about is just the topic of the community.

When musk does something tech related that's tech. When he does something that's not tech related that's off topic.

Twitter is a social media website it's not tech.

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Moderator here.

Since there is a loud and collective voice, I will do it, but not all news related to Twitter or Musk can be banned. This is something that you folks need to give me input on. There is going to be a level or kind of essential news that impacts us all, that needs to be allowed to post, and for that we need some agreeable middle ground.

Inputs?

[–] onlinepersona 57 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think anything "musk did/said ABC" should be banned. Reading news about SpaceX or whatever else Musk owns that's technology related is fine IMO, but the constant "Musk this" and "Musk that" just makes me downvote or at "worst" unsub.

Regarding Twitter, if lemmy had filters, I'd block all of that too. However I can see that it has some influence on people and would be fine treating it as an exception to the muskysphere as long as it doesn't contain "Musk" in the title.

My 2 cents. Thank you for considering the ban 🙏

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As long as people report, and if I notice that kind of Elon Musk paparazzi gospel crap, it will be removed as long as I stay mod. Active during Indian timezone. I do try complain about Lemmy's mod tools occasionally, because that and some form of CSAM filtering are key concerns now that platform is steadily growing.

incoming rant

Usually an active and reasonable mod tries finding the "moderate" balance on posting and discourse, but they are rare nowadays. I am not spez or a typical reddit mod "mod". I was born out of the community if that makes any sense, so I am handling the privacy and tech sublemmys for a good while, cushioning the impact of Lemmy adopters.

[–] onlinepersona 5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Thank you for your service 🫡

Would you mind adding the "no musk spam" rule?

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[–] echutaa 48 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For me it’s the difference between a statements and events. If Musk just says something it’s generally worthless drivel, but if Tesla engineers a new battery pack or gets targeted by a lawsuit then it’s something worth knowing.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I agree, but only restrict the news if it mentions Musk, not just one of his companies. For example, SpaceX does interesting stuff, and to be honest operates mostly independently of him these days.

Technology is technology, no matter which asshole owns the company.

[–] onlinepersona 6 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Breaking News: Elon Musk announces new X laundry service!

"It's the laundry service of the future! Only requires a recurring subscription of $49.99! (shipping fees not included) Mail us your laundry!!!"

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They'll use spaceX drones instead of mail

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

You can get drone service as an add on for only an additional $89.99 a month! Don't be left in the past! Start your X laundry service today! IT'S THE LAUNDRY OF THE FUTURE! PAY ME NOW YOU PEONS!!!

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago

Yes please. None of those have anything to do with technology. I want to see some PM-esque posts in here.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don't think content should be banned on Lemmy just because some people are tired of it. But each instance can have its own rules of course.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They're not asking for it to be banned from the instance, or from Lemmy entirely; they just want it to be moderated out of this community.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

The whole point of having communities is to establish a focus of discussion. You wouldn't come in here to talk about flower arranging.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Yes Please. Twitter is dead, and we're just reminding people to go take a look at it constantly. Just let the internet forget about him.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Any time I click a link to Twitter by accident it just asks me to log in or create an account. I don't think it's viewable at all (without tools) for non-members anymore.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I think if it's actually related to tech it's fine. For example, I read an article from DHH talking about how Musk's strategy has saved money by moving from Cloud to on-prem and doing it cut massive costs.

I think that'd be okay?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That’s not “musk’s strategy” though. That’s just common knowledge. If you change your own brakes, it’s cheaper than at the dealership. If you run your own servers, it’s cheaper than in the cloud. The reason people choose the cloud is either they don’t want to, or can’t, run their own server farm.

[–] mild_deviation 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If you run your own servers, it’s cheaper than in the cloud. The reason people choose the cloud is either they don’t want to, or can’t, run their own server farm.

Generally speaking, if it wasn't cheaper for them to use the cloud, they probably wouldn't. Owning infrastructure comes with costs that amortize better at scale. If infrastructure is not a big cost in serving your customers, then it's probably cheaper to rent.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

There are some costs that are cheaper when you go to the cloud because of scale. Things like bandwidth, redundancy, and physical security. But they are massively offset by how expensive renting the hardware is. I can rent a server for $500/month that I could build for $3,000-$4,000. That's 6-8 months before I'm in the red with the cloud. Think about those costs over one server's lifetime (roughly 5 years, depending on your needs). That's $26,000 over 5 years, or $5,200 per year extra, for one server. If your company is using 10 servers (assuming your costs scale linearly at this point), that's $52,000 per year, rather than just running a couple fiber lines into your office. And that's a small company.

So yeah, it's more expensive to go with the cloud, almost always. But yes, the cloud gives you benefits. This is pretty common knowledge in the industry, and musk didn't come up with the idea of bringing services on-site.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That seems like "business" more than technology

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Ah you broke my heart. Clear indication that I'm drifting more into management every day :(

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Some people like the antics of Bozo the Clown. I enjoy the antics of Stammering Elon.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I love to watch expensive garbage burn.

Watching Twitter burn to the ground along with Musk's reputation is highly entertainment.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

That post timing lol https://i.imgur.com/U1ystUX.png

It does seem like there should be filters, though. That seems like a pretty important feature.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

Yes please. My downvote finger is getting sore.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Holy cow, this sounds like a moderation nightmare--glad I don't have to do it! There's no way you're going to get through it without someone complaining about it.

In my mind, this is definitely something that individuals should address with blocks and filters. If those filters don't exist, they should be written.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't realistically expect such ban to happen. I started banning everyone who posts about Musk instead, my feed got a lot cleaner.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Yes, seriously.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Fine, I'll do it myself.

https://lemmy.world/c/tech_news

It's about time I start subscribing to some RSS feeds since I left reddit anyway. I'll start posting some stuff, everyone else feel free. I'll probably add mods at some point.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Hi there! Looks like you linked to a Lemmy community using a URL instead of its name, which doesn't work well for people on different instances. Try fixing it like this: [email protected]

[–] onlinepersona 5 points 1 year ago

Could you add some rules? You could copy the ones here and just add 5. No musk spam! Use [[email protected]](https://kbin.social/m/EnoughMuskSpam) for that

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

I'm into it. All of the news is bad news for him and I love it. It's like a house burning for a year and I just like checking in on it every few days.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

No, that would be beneficial for him and like-minded people. It creates a bubble around him where only his supporters know what's going on.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Some Lemmy apps have filters. I use Memmy for Lemmy and it has filters. That assumes you use your phone and not a browser.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Don't block me though, please

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Please do that!

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