Wait is this a thing, have they said this already? (I fully assume they will but missed it if they already have)
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I think it's referring to Threads.
Yeah, but has threads made an official statement like this yet on defederation rules? I'm an instance owner so I'm pretty sure I'd just reply back "lol"
I saw that mentioned on Mastodon, but honestly don't care enough about Threads to actually look at their TOS. Seems likely though given they're all about making it as bland and corporate friendly as possible.
Does it have to be said? If you allow certain things they're definitely blocking you
no of course not, it's obvious, I was just surprised they already said the quiet part out loud, right now they seem to be all "buddy buddy" like we're all stupid
Well there are apparently users here who want to see Threads content. I don't know why you would want that, and here of all places...
I mean, I wish celebrities were jumping on other options rather than "ooo shiny new facebook", they're the only ones I would personally follow, but other than that if you want to follow me choose a platform that federates
They can sign up a free account on Threads, no need to bring that here.
Why is it shocking?
Exactly. Every instance will defederate from another if they are not acting in the way that they want. I don't see why Threads would be any different.
I guess the difference may be that the policies are much more restrictive rather than something like "is a frequent source of spam and hate speech" but there is always going to be a policy.
Please use this official mascot for Calckey because it's funnier 
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"We will defederate you!" "Ok me first"
I consider this to be a bad development. I could see Facebook/Meta aggressively growing to become the "default" server, then squashing everybody else. Not to mention all the US intelligence fuckery that will be potentially happening.
We laugh at this now, but in a few months we might have server admins enforcing Meta TOS on their users for fear of being cut out from the biggest part of the Fediverse.
I'd propose that right from the get-go, a bunch of instances should band together and defederate from Threads.
Defederating from Threads by default is absolutely the right move.
Yup, if other corporations follow Threads into the fediverse, history will repeat itself. They'll do to the fediverse what they did to the rest of the internet.
Can confirm, already defederated them from my lemmy
I'm out of the loop on what meta is trying to do with lemmy. Can you catch me up?
Not exactly, Lemmy. But Meta created a new app similar to Twitter and said they will join the Fediverse with this app in the future, só you could potentially interaction with Threads' content with your Lemmy or Mastodon account without having to create a Meta account or downloadind their app.
God that makes me feel icky
This is sort of how Google's Chat tool ended up rolling with the XMPP community. Their initial chat system was federated (this is pre-federation, but the concept was essentially the same) with the XMPP servers of the world. You could use their pre-hangouts Messaging app across the XMPP world.
Then, when Google was unhappy with how the XMPP standards were moving they defederated, replaced their entire protocol and stole the user base from the XMPP community.
Honestly meta should federate with a different social media company with a large userbase (ie twitter if they joined the fediverse for some reason)
Not to disagree, but I think that's really unlikely, unless they do a corporate merge.
Honestly, this is the biggest part that's bugging me about it the most. Meta is probably doing this to ride on the wave of the Reddit exodus, but it's not unreasonable to assume that other corporations will follow suit if Threads succeeds. And when that happens it'll be like the internet all over again. Corporations coming in and setting up ad-infested data-gathering fiefdoms that will squeeze everyone else out.
That's exactly why we should not federate with platforms that are so much bigger
Isn’t that what every instance already does?
Yea but the difference is most instances have ethical reasons for banning certain content.
Meta could randomly decide anti-meta content doesn’t belong on their platform. I wouldn’t be surprised if this is already the case.
[you have been banned from Threads]
“You can’t ban me because I quit”
"You can't quit, you're a lizard."
I'll believe it when I see it. The fact they allowed it the first step on the majority of instances(by user count) means when we cool off they will win the next step too.
Think of meta like reddit. Don't want to be on facebook via federation? Just post jonny O or NSFW. Not like facebook is going to do anything but defederate from your instance. Kind of like how all instances work.
I'm surprised that nsfw spam is a viable trick. It makes sense, it just feels so weird to be viable. I'd expect it to mysteriously become against the rules as per my above post though. I'd prefer to talk about meta and their help towards genocide etc though. I'll have to start making a list of their dirty deeds.
Thats some good stuff for a bot to keep signing up and posting to facebook proper. But don't listen to me I have bad ideas
Lmao wait did they actually try that…?
What's the name of the fediverse services in the image, beside Mastodon and Pixelfed?
The three triangles is PeerTube, the F is Friendica, and don't recognize the last one.
i think that's Calckey, another microblogging software like Mastodon with an arguably prettier interface
Ah yeah that sounds right.
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