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Democrats refuse to help GOP out of House speaker mess, trashing Jim Jordan as an 'insurrectionist' (www.nbcnews.com)
submitted 1 year ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
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Democrats are standing firm in their refusal to bail out the House Republican majority as it struggles to elect a new speaker 10 days after after booting Rep. Kevin McCarthy.

They're also dialing up the rhetoric against the GOP’s new nominee for speaker, prominent Donald Trump ally Jim Jordan of Ohio, blasting him as an insurrectionist, election denier and extremist.

“House Republicans have selected as their nominee to be the speaker of the people’s House the chairman of the chaos caucus, a defender in a dangerous way of dysfunction, and an extremist extraordinaire,” House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries, D-N.Y., said Friday on the steps of the Capitol, flanked by dozen of Democratic lawmakers. “His focus has been on peddling lies and conspiracy theories and driving division amongst the American people.”

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[–] [email protected] 101 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He is an insurrectionist. See his political positions on wikipedia here. It's a well-sourced article. He also opposes

  • The ACA
  • Research on disinformation
  • The Environment, in general
  • Abortion, to the point where he said that the 10-year-old girl who got raped and needed to travel to Indiana to get an abortion was lying about it until the police arrested the guy and he confessed.
  • Regulating big tech
  • Taxes, Spending, pretty broadly
  • Same-sex marriage

He's an extremist. They do not have the political power to elect an extremist from their ranks. They need a moderate.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don’t forget his sexual assault coverup

[–] [email protected] 101 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Instead of "trashing Gym Jordan as an 'insurrectionist'" it should read "reminding them that Gym Jordan is an insurrectionist".

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, "trash" is used appropriately.

trash (v): to subject to criticism or invective especially : to disparage strongly

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes but in the political landscape it implies the usual hyperbole and rhetoric. That he is an insurrectionist is a simple fact and should be treated as such.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It doesn't imply anything but strong criticism.

If anything, you are the one inferring rhetoric and hyperbole simply because the criticism comes from politicians.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

In sports, 'trash talk' is saying mostly untrue negative things about the other team as part of pumping up your team. Maybe it has different connotations for people who don't interact with sports culture, but for me it strongly implies rhetoric and hyperbole.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah why should they help cleanup the other sides fucking mess, not like they’d get credit and cooperation if they did.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Honestly it’s astounding that they’ve apparently managed to realize this for once. I’ll have to send a letter of thanks or something.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Seriously... Treating bad faith children as if they're functioning adults is the ONLY thing Democrats are actually great at. Maybe if they start acting like there actually is something to be responsible for, this country might have a sliver of a chance.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They spelled his name wrong, it’s Gym Jordan.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Gymbo to his fellow insurrectionists.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Asked what Jordan can do to change minds, Armstrong said: “Talk to people, listen to people. He’s really good at it…”

beg to fucking differ, you servile cunt

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Oh he listened plenty. He just ignored them. That's what they're really interested in. They want somebody who will ignore the truth and continue to support the ongoing insurrection.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why do the Dems have to "help" the GOP? I say the GOP isn't helping the Dems! All it would take is a handful of Rs to vote with the Dems to make Jeffries the speaker.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago

“People can talk a big game about that. I haven’t personally heard anybody talk about that; it’s only hearsay,” he said. “But I think that’s pretty nuclear. Let’s keep this conventional.”

This quote by a Republican Congressman explains absolutely everything that is wrong about the GOP. The idea of talking to Democrats to see what compromise could take place is considered a "nuclear" option. Keep in mind that had 5 districts gone the other way nationwide, Republicans would be in the minority. But they're talking as if they have an ironclad majority that demands they never compromise on anything.

This party deserves to die.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

At the risk of sounding like a hopeless optimist... Wouldn't it make sense for the Republicans to nominate more of a centrist with promises to work on common ground with the Democrats (whatever narrow terrain that may consist of now) and thereby sideline the MAGA crew to irrelevancy?

Yeah they would take a lot of heat from Trump & co., but maybe they could actually pass something for their constituents.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

On the one hand, yes, but the Republicans made it so any one person can call for a vote to oust the speaker, so it only takes one unhappy rep to restart the cycle.

So I think the current plan is to just sit back and let the American people see that the current batch of Republican reps has as much ability to work together as a bag of weasels until the Republicans are willing to actually admit that they fucked up and ask for help fixing it.

So this could take a year to resolve.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

But wouldn't a moderate speaker supported by the majority from both parties easily survive a vote like that?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Their "moderates" were the anti-Trumpers.

They got primaried and voted out.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I'm sure we will find out. It sounds good in theory, but I'm not sure how many true moderates may be left. We seem to be in a "compromise is weakness stage"

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fuck you mean “trashing”?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Clickbait. Common in journalism nowadays.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Even if Dems wanted to help sincerely, why would they aid a party whose platform is to harass the shit out of everyone else. Nevermind the fact that the staffers are probably still dealing with the fear from Jan 6 in therapy; helping get Jim Jordan up of all people is voting for a dude who indirectly tried to kill you. The idea of even asking for that is so weird to me.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

House Minority Leader needs to nominate an r they can work with. That will turn up the heat.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

LETS GOOOO