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Catastrophic shutdown averted as McCarthy sides with Democrats over far right in his own party
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Just a 45 day stopgap and it’s not over, but hopefully Republicans begin to realize, “We can’t function with these people,” and start trying to move away from their hardliners. Doubtful it’ll happen, but one can always dream. That they didn’t actually let it go to a shutdown suggests that there’s Republicans who wanted to avoid a shutdown as much as Democrats and may be willing to compromise and reach a longer term deal, they’re not just trying to burn the whole place down.
Matt Gaetz has been saying he intends to file a motion to vacate the speakership this week.
Seriously why the fuck isn't that asshole in jail? He was fucking trafficking children.
I don't think I'll ever understand that either. An arrest looked inevitable and when the DOJ announced they weren't going to arrest him I was dumbstruck.
Rules for thee, not for mee
These motherfuckers could fund the government for the next century if they wanted to.
What a misleading headline. Makes it sound like the Republicans did the hard work.
What is life? We are in the evil timeline.
It didn't read that way to me. This could be the end of McCarthy as speaker because he worked with Democrats. Did you see the paragraph:
Jim McGovern, a Democrat from Massachusetts, offered a simple commentary as he left the floor following the vote: “We won.”
The headline made it sound like the Republicans avoided it; that's all. You know most Republicans don't read anything more than a headline. :) I'm mostly frustrated with that is all. The context almost always leans differently.
Republicans avoid shutdown by cutting deal with Democrats over their own party’s hardliners
Any Republican who reads that, what do you think they read? I know what I think, and, unfortunately, as an observer of those people's reactions, I'm positive that's how they'll read it.
Well Republicans control the house so it was factually a Republican who sided with Democrats over the Republican freedom caucus.
But now comes the speaker fight. And whoever becomes speaker gets the albatross of the biden impeachment around their neck.
Not my take away from the headline at all. Makes the GOP sound like they don't have their shit together so McCarthy had to go hat in hand to the Dems seeking actual adults capable of governing.
To be fair, while most of the GOP might have their shit together, they have a crazy faction blocking them
In a way, it might just be possible that this marks a realization that they will have better results working in a bipartisan manner than trying to appease the nutjobs.
How in the world can you say most of the GOP has their shit together when all they've done is support Trump? Block anything Democrat backed? I don't understand where you're coming from at all.
Have their shit together meaning they can actually function as a coherent group to achieve actually getting something done, whether I agree with them or not. When you toss the "Freedom Caucus" into the fray and if you refuse to work at all with democrats, then the party "does not have their shit together" insofar as they can't pass anything. To try to pick their own speaker they utterly struggled.
Here they wanted the government to keep functioning by and large, but a small contingent just wants to burn everything down. The fact that the larger population of GOP were willing to work with Democrats rather than try to appease the nutjob wing is evidence that they "have their shit together" enough to actually get something passed they wanted to get passed.
Well technically they did work hard... at blocking anything possible to stop this shutdown, because a shutdown is good for a very few rich assholes
It’s all just theaterics and the republicans need more rehearsals before taking stage.
There's a lot of theater in politics but that's nothing new.
True, but they can't win this, so either have to damage themselves over and over again, or grow up and be leaders of their constituents, which means explaining a little bit to them reality instead of blindly being pushed around by ignorant sheep