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[–] [email protected] 223 points 1 year ago (4 children)

This would be a great moment for The Onion to run a headline like "Google plans to sunset Gmail, migrate users to YouTube Music."

[–] [email protected] 102 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

'No Way To Prevent This,’ Says Only Business Where This Regularly Happen

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago

"Google plans to require a YouTube Premium subscription to allow users to search while minimized, industry leak claims"

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think that one might cause some real pandemonium in that far too many people would think it’s legit.

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[–] [email protected] 126 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I never really explored non-FOSS podcast services, did it offer anything in particular over something like AntennaPod? Is some content exclusive?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Many paid/non-FOSS apps provide more features then AntennaPod, or have better layouts, but AntennaPod is one of the FOSS apps that is close enough to being what I really want, that I use it over the rest.

The one feature missing that I'm really baffled by is the ability to customize how your podcasts page is laid out, so hopefully they get around to it one of these days.

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[–] [email protected] 107 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Dear Google.

YouTube Music is shit. Stop trying to combine your other services into YouTube music.

Google Play Music was good. Google Podcasts was... not awful

YouTube Music is the worst of both services.

Just stop

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I loved Google play music as a locker for my owned music and a a storefront to buy what I wanted. YouTube Music made me abandon it completely and move my owned music onto my plex server.

Why does Google have to ruin everything? Still bitter about Google Reader closing back in the day. That was the beginning of the end of me having confidence in their services and moving to self hosting as much as I can.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

As someone who loves Google Podcasts this sucks. Fuck YouTube Music and I miss my Google Music.

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[–] [email protected] 97 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This is why Google will forever be behind Apple. Any app that can't be monetised gets killed. Why give Android users a stable ecosystem after all? Fuck the users. Google fucking sucks.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

To be fair the Apple podcast app kind of sucks too, its just the most convenient one to use since it comes pre installed.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's more the principal that Google doesn't care about their ecosystem or users. There would be uproar if Apple killed their podcasts app, since it has been around for so long. But Android users are just used to this shit now.

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[–] [email protected] 89 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Killing google play music didn't make me switch to youtube music, same here

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Why are they forcing users to YouTube Music anyway? They could improve the product before killing all of their other services.

YouTube Music doesn’t even remember where you left off. Switch to your phone? Music queue is gone. Close the tab? Music queue is gone. Anything other than an algorithm curated playlist will make you have a shit experience on YouTube Music.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's my theory that all large media corps want to go back to owning and controlling all of the media that people see. Google especially, since they're an advertising business at its core.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

Exactly. YT Music of such a trash interface compared to Google Play Music that I actually bothered to try Spotify when they killed GPM. They're not accomplishing their goals here

[–] [email protected] 79 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)

Good news: you never needed Google Podcasts to begin with. Antenna Pod is a Free Open Source app that won't track your every move and just works.

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[–] h_a_r_u_k_i 66 points 1 year ago

Why is Google trying to follow the model of Spotify even though the model is not really successful? I hate when browsing my music in Spotify some podcast pops up. I just want to listen to my music, dammit!

[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Google Play Music users: "~~First~~ 600th time?"

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Do they have a script that they must follow? Why every single time they need to kill a product BEFORE having a fucking replacement???

Why they couldn't implement podcasts in yt music and then kill Google podcasts?

Why. Every. Single. Time. They need to kill a product BEFORE the replacement is ready?????????????

I'm guessing right now every dev with a podcasting app on the play store is popping champagne from the huge influx of Google podcasts refugees

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

Go for AntennaPod. FOSS and works great

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 year ago (1 children)

At this point it's on you if you put any faith in any Google product aside from Search/YT/Adtech to last longer than a couple of years.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Best case scenario: They forget about whatever product you like and it's allowed to continue running for years with zero updates.

Most likely scenario: They kill it off to merge into another product line that overlaps with a third of the features only to do the exact same thing again within a year or two.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Oh Google.

They kicked everyone off Google Music to go to YT Music and Google Podcasts. Now they’re killing Google Podcasts and telling people to go to YT Music.

If YT Music wasn’t linked with my YouTube Premium subscription, I would never use it.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I decided to cancel both. YT Music deleted my music that they don't have in their global library, and they fucked up the sorting of my liked playlist. Going back to buying music a la carte and storing it myself.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm old school, but music that isn't in a file stored on one of my devices doesn't actually exist for me.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I sometimes decide to try out YouTube Music for playing some of the music I have saved on YT in a more music focused UI.

Then I go back straight back to regular YouTube, because half the songs/music can't be played in YT Music (including offical music on official channels).

I feel like I get some good value out of YT Premium, but I don't understand YT Music.

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 year ago (5 children)

"what if we made it so everybody had to pay to turn off their screens even if there was no video or music!"

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fortunately when they killed the podcasts out of Google Play Music I switched to Podcast Addict and never looked back.

I honestly feel bad for the guys assigned to work on this dead-end project.

And considering the buggy, infuriating mess that YTM is and that team is being rewarded with expanded scope, I wonder what dirt they have on Sundar.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (11 children)

Okay, it isn't just me who find YTM buggy.

As a music player, could it please play music? Jesus.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Fuck! I liked Google podcasts due to the android auto integration! I am not willing to install yt music on my phone.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Google is now my least favorite company.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago

I'm totally on board them getting investigated for antitrust and monopolistic practices. Google has really turned to shit the last 4-5 years.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Well fuck me, why? Why oh why? It's such a clean and simple app, no weird shit and of course it gets axed. I think I may just stop listening to podcasts then, much easier than switching to an app I have no interest in.

[–] DSkou7 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)

AntennaPod is great, free, and has no ads. Pretty sure it's open source too.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I've been using Pocket Casts for years. Works great.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That sucks, it's been my only podcast app for many years.

I will never switch to YouTube music. Guess I'll have to leave another google service.

Edit: Moved to antennapod in about 10 minutes, bye google podcasts 😂

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Just use a good podcast app like Pocket Casts. It’s the king on iOS at least, so I assume it’s good on Android as well. I never understood why people keep using these shitty Google apps that always get abandoned.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

AntennaPod on Android. I use Pocket Casts but only because I’m on iOS, once I switch back to Android I’m going back to AntennaPod, it’s open source and imo easier to customise than any other podcast app and I went through a lot of them trying to find the one that doesn’t try to force it’s terrible ux on you

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

This is why I'll never get invested in Google again. I'm working on trying to move everything I can out.

Edit: Spelling

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

I still have Google Listen on my first Android phone. Maybe I can go back...

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

YT music isn't even available in my region, these fucks.

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