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[–] [email protected] 183 points 1 year ago (15 children)

That leaked email conveniently assumes the owner of Valve would sell it. I can't think of a reason for Gabe to do that.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 year ago (5 children)

This is the biggest problem with Valve at the moment. They're awesome, but only because of the current leadership. Once these guys retire or die, it's very likely Valve will enshittify like every other business.

Valve needs to be hit by regulators at some point. They just have too much market power.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I wish the decent guys who started companies would leave a directive for the company that must be followed to prevent it from becoming just another shitty piece of garbage like everything else these days has become thanks to the geniuses with business degrees running the world.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Money? Remember when people thought that about Mojang?

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Mojang, at least, was not founded by two guys who gave Microsoft the finger on their way out the door at their previous job.

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[–] [email protected] 154 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Gaben already refused to sell to EA and made it abundantly clear that we would rather let valve die than go public.

Microsoft also just recently said they'd buy Nintendo if they could.

All this means is that Microsoft is filthy rich and still doesn't know how to make an original quality game studio. They seem to overly rely on buying out studios and IPs that are successful to rake in more money.

spoilerAll of which reeks of an oligigopoly and reminds me of even worse companies like Oracle and AT&T

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The funny thing about selling valve, what would it even give for Gabe? He's already filthy rich. What more could one want with more money?

Saying no to selling only makes sense in his position, in my opinion. At least I personally would think so. Because then you still keep what is effectively your creation, and can use it to shape the world.

At some point you really do just have enough money.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Well, the idea is you can do something else with the money instead of it being tied up with that company. You could start another venture if you want to. I'm pretty sure Valve is what he wants to be doing though, so starting a different company isn't really something he'd want to do.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago

Yeah where's our antitrust enforcement?

The oligopoly thing has definitely been fucking everything up for decades.

[–] [email protected] 108 points 1 year ago (5 children)

The thought of another company buying Valve, especially one like Microsoft, makes me actually sick. I have spent so much fucking money on my Steam library at this point. If my Steam library gets jacked by some billionaire dickheads it's all over, I'm never paying for anything again.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Yargghh?! Seriously though, I was furious when they bought Mojang and partially enshittified Minecraft.

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[–] [email protected] 100 points 1 year ago (5 children)

This is so stupid. Of course they would buy it. Valve won't sell, but let's do the click baits!

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They’d buy Sony and Nintendo if those were up to sell. For the right price (I dunno, in the hundreds of dollars according to my bank account), I’d buy them too.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

in the hundreds of dollars according to my bank accoun

You decadent bourgeois pig

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah 100% this. Why would you not buy Valve? The store is a cash cow and the userbase is huge. They have a lot of good faith with the community too. These must be rage bait articles.

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[–] [email protected] 90 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Gaben is one of the few people in tech I trust to resist the money MSFT would be willing to throw at something as successful as valve. I mean - they’re the closest thing to a trustworthy company as you can find these days.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah, I doubt he cares about the money at this point, and he did leave MSFT, so I'm guessing he isn't interested in selling. He also went out of his way to use Linux to stick it to MSFT.

As long as he runs the company, I don't see it happening.

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[–] [email protected] 80 points 1 year ago (12 children)

I like to think Gabe knows all too well the importance of remaining a private business. Publicly traded businesses are the root cause of a lot of problems in the world.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I work for a company that has specifically stated it will never do that and has stuck to those guns for 50+ years

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

I work for one who said the same thing then 2 years ago sold for $12 billion dollars to a public company. The employees didn't get very much of that either.

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[–] [email protected] 66 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Gaben used to work at Microsoft and left because he hated it.

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[–] [email protected] 61 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Gabe has been a large proponent of avoiding the kind of consolidation that Microsoft is doing. He saw the writing on the way years ago when Valve released the Steam consoles. I don't think (and certainly hope) that he wouldn't sell.

[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (14 children)

I am ruined if this happens. MS would discontinue Proton / Linux and Mac support.

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 year ago (14 children)

Day 1 of suddenly having the urge to keep an offline and DRM free copy of all my steam games.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I love Steam (have 2000 or so games on it) but I realize it is only a matter of time before it gets enshittified.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Maybe, but it's still a private company.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Yeah, there is some hope for as long as Valve isn't publicly traded. It's investors that push companies to care only for short term gains.

Valve is not saintly, they have their own sketchy aspects like how they profit over that cosmetics trading market, but releasing the Steam Deck shows they are still thinking of the long term future of PC gaming.

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I imagine they would immediately drop proton and move the steam deck too some windows bs

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Windows CE is back babyyyyyyyy!

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It's impossible for me to understand not having enough. M$ is like some megacorp villain that wants to swallow everything

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When one company in an industry has nearly endless cash, as Microsoft and Apple do, it is natural that everyone else would be seen as acquisition targets

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The difference is Valve is completely privately owned, Microsoft cannot force a sale.

With a publicly traded business, the business must be run in the interests of the shareholders, ie it must pursue profits above all else. Thus a buyer can effectively present "an offer you can't refuse", at least the business can't refuse on behalf of shareholders (maybe the shareholders could vote and refuse). With a private business the owner generally has free reign to run the business as they see fit, they could run it into the ground if they so desired.

So it doesn't matter how much cash Microsoft or whoever have, so long as Gabe doesn't want to sell.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Embrace, Extend, Extinguish moment

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago (7 children)

People would riot. GOG would have a massive influx of traffic.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago

This would be a nightmare

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago

It's a private company that isn't for sale. There was another leak a week ago where they were trying to acquire Nintendo which IS publicly traded, but I think the private shares still control 51%, but that's old info.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

Hopefully Gabe doesn't allow that to ever happen

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (14 children)

I've tried switching to Linux and didn't succeed. Nevertheless i wouldn't wanna see a Microsoft Deck with Windows 11.

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