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Documenting hate speech, conspiracy theories, apologia/revisionism, and general tankie behaviour across the fediverse. Memes are welcome!
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Still waiting on that CIA paycheck, man when CIA payroll dept finally pays me that back pay is gonna be sweet!
Yes, for example, me an anarcho-communist who thinks western governments are generally terrible. But ALSO thinks that governments like Russia and China are absolutely terrible and committing different forms of genocide, am definitely on a CIA payroll right? That only makes sense?
This is not an authorised opinion. Please contact your closest democracy officer and ask for a free reeducation referal code.
This from the group who's intellectual ancestors shot at leftists like you and me before they shot the Czar.
"'Tankie' is just a slur for people you don't like". No, it's a term for people that have a definition of imperialism so bad that it doesn't cover the Soviet Union literally driving tanks into another country.
Yeah… Reading Orwell’s hommage to Catalonia was illuminating to me.
Really made me realise those “tankies” would probably shoot me if they got the chance. As always:
Have you seen how they moderate their instances. I don't want any one of those fucks near any real power.
Im 100% positive that anyone who thinks they understand exactly how the system should be run are those that should not hold power.
Truth. Getting told I'm and anti-communist because I think the uyghur genocide happened is annoying, to say the least.
Literally, us anti communist communists are the worst aren't we?
Tune in next week folks, to see if the campist tankies solve the mystery of who shat "our" pants.
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It was them
Pft, classic CIA whataboutism /s
Liberalism is a conservative ideology, so yeah, it would make sense that the most liberal instance out there is opposed to communism. I wouldn’t call it a psyop though, instead I would say it’s Neo Reddit. Just a bunch of liberals all circlejerking each other over Wall Street and war crimes.
This hurt my brain. In my head liberalism is right of center, where as conservatism is center right, followed by fascism on the far right. I don't know if this is accurate but, it's my interpretation of the political spectrum.
As far as I'm aware, the terms "Liberal" and "Conservative" aren't exactly mutually exclusive.
"Conservative" originally referred to defending tradition and social order. "Liberal" emphasized individual rights, reform, and limiting state power. Though once opposing forces, the terms have evolved today, someone can be socially liberal but economically conservative, or vice versa. Their meanings often depend on context.
I agree with this mostly. I just believe being economically conservative or economically liberal, as a consequence, buttresses the same economic mode of production. I view that mode of production to be inherently coercive/rightwing.
I’m assuming you’re American? In any other country, the American Democratic party would be considered conservatives. If you compared them to the UK, for example, they share similar policies with the Tories.
American politicians like AOC and Bernie are slightly left of center. There aren’t any real leftist parties in the US. Meanwhile, most Americans would consider them leftists, because from our perspective they are the most left.
I was speaking strictly to ideological politics, removed from electoral politics. The American democratic party is largely ideologically neo-liberal, which in my previous comment I mentioned to be right of center.
It's my opinion that elected/prospective representatives are going to obfuscate their true ideology (if they hold one) if it serves their interests. This often betrays the trust in their constituents, leading them to believe the party is left wing.
From what I know, liberal in other parts of the world often means market liberal, not social liberal
I'll have to look up what a social liberal means. If I'm not mistaken, upholding the institution of capital is universally a liberal value.
That alone would make them some flavor of rightwing in my mind.
That might be, but as an example from Germany, the FDP are referred to as liberal, even though they are against pretty much everything that American liberals stand for.
Their main focus is creating a free market and propagation of unfettered capitalism.
From the Wikipedia page, it's reads as the middle ground between socialist and market liberal ideas.
Oh right, like the article says it's Keynesian liberalism. When I hear that I think "FDR style liberalism" which is the least right wing economic liberalism. I still classify it as right wing even if it's the least right wing. That's just my assessment.
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Homie should take a break from pretending to read theory and read a book about grammar
Trolling is a art.
But why is it called the Xbox 360?
“A book?” Jeez, take a hard look in the mirror, friend! It’s obviously “an book.”
Umm first off, you’re an intern, you don’t get paid. Second, I sent you for coffee like 3 hours ago and you still haven’t dropped it off at my desk.
I am also still waiting for my Soros bucks, let alone my my CIA paycheck
Remember how russia got completely surprised by Ukraine's collectivism and national identity?
Yeah, if one does actual psyops and mass propaganda at national level, you can present and see your enemy through a similar mindset (yes, goes for usa and china bs as well).
The most hilarious thing was a circlejerk convincing dummies there is a grassroot movement between polish kids in being interested in russia, the language and communism.
Bitch gtfo. Any kid who would get caught with this shit would get smacked in the head at light speed.
Yes, there is such thing. But ran by russian troll farms. What was proven by journalists, ngos as well as eu intel agencies.
Of course the most legitimate account is PolandIsAStateOf... Whoever is running that account does not use polish ever.
I had some mouth breathing chuds on Discord accuse me of being a CIA psyop because I didn’t want to play a game with EAC (a specific kind of kernel level anticheat) yes, being anti spyware makes me a spook, cmon guys are you even trying 🙄
eac on linux is userspace only
regardless, kernel level ac isn't a solution. DMA is a thing and is piss easy to bypass.
Being called a single issue voter for caring about Palestinian children at all and a tankie for caring about economic liberation certainly would make this meme seem accurate.
Wait! You guys are getting paid?!
Contact your handler if you're not. Sometimes the payments get stuck in bureaucratic limbo
A little projection coming from the Chinese psyop to get western countries on board with dictatorships.
Meanwhile I had the opposite reaction. "Man, I really hope this leftist reddit diaspora is at least passingly familiar with some contemporary post-left theory from the last century and isn't just tankie brainrot..."
Can someone give me the rundown about why this is a thing? I've gotten called names and dismissed in political discussion because of the domain, but I'm literally only here because it's what Boost switched to when the Reddit API pricing bullshit happened.
Lol ikr?
Ironically, Clint Eastwood is playing a Korean War vet in that movie.