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Russia has moved to classify key demographic statistics following a dramatic collapse in its birth rate, which has plunged to levels not seen since the late 18th or early 19th century, according to a leading Russian demographer.

For decades, Russia has been experiencing a plunging birth rate and population decline, which appears to have worsened amid its ongoing invasion of Ukraine—with high casualty rates and men fleeing the country to avoid being conscripted to fight.

Projections estimate that Russia's population will fall to about 132 million in the next two decades. The United Nations has predicted that in a worst-case scenario, by the start of the next century, Russia's population could almost halve to 83 million.

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[–] [email protected] 64 points 13 hours ago (6 children)

Seriously. If you are a woman, do you want to bring a child into this world?? Our climate is a disaster, and anyone who “could” do anything about it is doing everything they can to accumulate wealth at the expense of the planet. Fascism and misinformation is rampant. Geezus, people are telling Mothers that inoculations are bad. Think about that… polio vaccines that rescued generations of children from “iron lungs”, leg braces, and death. Those vaccines were developed from science. SCIENCE I’m an old lady now. If I was young and of child bearing years—I would not have children.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I’m a woman, with two kids, they’re not my biological children. I never wanted to have kids but other people are having kids and I figure why not love the kids already here? There’s plenty of kids to go around there’s no need for me to personally make a kid. If the kids are already here we should do as much as we can to make their lives good but if they’re not already here it should stay that way.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 hours ago

100% agreed. If possible, get a rescue kid. (In general, without getting into the nitty gritty details about the adoption processes around the world.)

[–] [email protected] 21 points 11 hours ago (14 children)

As a dude, I wouldn't want to bring a kid into this shithole of a world either. Most of my generation doesn't, and I can see why.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 12 hours ago (4 children)

If AI and robots will take over so many jobs, why is a declining birthrate a bad thing, in the long term?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 hours ago

depends on where its decling, if its only like elderly left and the young not reproducing thats would be a problem.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 hours ago

I don't think ruzies are worried about technologies they can't even afford.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Because current society is built on the assumption that around 4 workers will support 1 person with social benefits like retirement money, healtcare or unemployment benefits. Robots are already used in many factories but don't pay any of those. The robots will produce goods cheaper than humans, however corporations will own the robots, and still charge you the same price for the goods while receiving a larger margin.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 hours ago

So.... you're saying that.... capitalism is the problem???

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[–] [email protected] 72 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Kinda rough to have babies if most of your men are being turned into fertilizer.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 hours ago

Invades the breadbasket of Europe, accidentally makes their crops even better.

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[–] [email protected] 143 points 19 hours ago (15 children)

It amuses me that world leaders pretend to be surprised by declining birth rates. They know perfectly well that it’s because of their and/or their neighbors policies. The environment is being poisoned, and possibly destroyed. People are reluctant to bring a child into this world, and I think they’re right to be.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 hours ago

I haven't read recent research on this, but at least until a decade or so ago, consciously not having children is a very small part of this. It's more about economic outlooks and the immense pressure of expecting both parents of working full time and raising kids at the same time. Or wanting to have two kids, but putting off the decision so long that the chance of not having successful pregnancies rises a lot.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 hours ago

almost all of them avoiding the discussion why its happening instead of trying to enact anti-abortion laws, or punishing peopel for not having children.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

And even ones that want kids take one look at the economy and their bank accounts, and decide to wait until both look better, because they want to be able to afford the kids a happy childhood. The worst thing for population growth is giving people the ability to choose when, if ever, to get kids, and an environment they don't want to have them in.

Two ways to fix that issue. Which one is used tells a lot.

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