Jokes on them. I don't have phone conversations
this post was submitted on 16 May 2025
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and when i do, they're not in English
Or at least not in conversational English. Me "The cheese is old and moldy." Wife "Roses eggs" Me "Bach unaccounted."
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Nice, wholesale illegal wire tapping. It's OK, it's legal because it's AI and Google is totally not storing any recordings. They say this is all on-device, but that's an "oops" or equivalent from them hoovering up recordings of every phone call you use one of their ~~surveillance endpoints~~ phones on.
heavy /s
What do you mean, "illegal?" If the phone user consents to turning it on, that makes it legal.
I hate to defend Google, but I will absolutely defend single-party consent for recording. Don't like it? Don't fucking call me in the first place. It absolutely grinds my gears when shitty software (including from Google) plays an obnoxious warning message when I want to record a call, even though I have the right to do so without warning.
In many places call recording (or indeed processing of personal information which is highly likely to be present in phone calls) requires consent to be legal. I highly doubt this kind of processing is legal in the EU without both parties consenting.
As is stated, the call is processed locally in the user's device. If that holds true, there is no recording and no third party processing going on. Your point does not make sense.
The person owning the phone where the processing takes place, is the processor of the data in this case. That still requires consent from the data subject per gdpr.
No, that's ridiculous.
This Regulation does not apply to the processing of personal data: [...] (c) by a natural person in the course of a purely personal or household activity;
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I read that it's "opt out" not "opt in".
You need to opt in to the public beta. Once it's out of beta... Who knows!
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Part of the reason I haven't yet moved away from Google services on my pixel is because of the call screening and anti-spam features. I screen unknown callers pretty much all the time so Google is listening if they call me anyway. I'm fine with that, knowing A. That the callers get a heads up that they're talking to an AI and being recorded and B. That the ones who are human and trying to scam me generally don't call back once they know the line is being actively recorded.
There's no feature parity for this on any of the roms I would move to. Taking it a step further is unnecessary for me, and I'll probably opt out. But I can fully understand why someone might want it (for their elderly family members for instance).
So far as I know, if your device uses their Gemini Nano LLM, it doesn't reach back to their servers at all unless you OPT IN to the 'Help service inprove'.
This feature though and a few other calling features has made me switch from iPhone single handedly, I was receiving 6-10 spam calls a day, now I see none because they're screened in the background. It's fantastic. I'm hooked on these Pixel features and only hope more move to becoming on device features with the ability to opt in to sending certain things off device.
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I'm so tired of this. It feels like an onslaught.
Back in 2008 or whatever I let Google handle my voicemails, and I enjoyed the convenience of the machine-transcriptions.
Now I wonder if my voicemails are being studied and trained on or whatever.
Yeah I just about had a meltdown trying to disable all the AI collection that Samsung phones come with nowadays. Phones are more like data harvesting engines than devices of utility. It's gotten so much worse over the past 5 years. I mean it was never good but it's making the internet nearly unusable if you want any kind of privacy.
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Great, more AI bloat from Google that is now listening in on my calls? How do I disable?
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Dumb as I am, I have a Pixel... the good thing though? Graphene OS is an option.
Last I checked it's only an option on non Verizon pixels or has Verizon stopped fucking things over.
...is this some sort of joke my Nordic brain can't understand? I need to go hug a councilman.
And? Google’s been listening to you for years and not only in english.
Kinda cool, on device and hopefully doesn't call back to Google then I'm fine with it
More AI testing...
Ah, but what if I use a British accent? Got em
Most people here: Yes, I bought an advertiser’s device, hooked up in a million ways to that advertiser’s services, who’s well known for monitoring every aspect of the life of every person they can, but how dare they monitor this part?
I have graphing OS. I still get a ton of spam phone calls a day.
I'm apparently not enough of a software developer to figure out how to use SpamBlocker app. Anybody have any suggestions?
We use AI models processed on-device
If it's opt-in, and the processing is done on-device, then I have no reason to be outraged.
But the skeptic in me asks "what's in it for google?".
This is common for companies that like to hire PhDs.
PhDs like to work on interesting and challenging projects.
With nobody to reign them in, they do all kinds of cool stuff that makes no money (e.g. Intel Optane and transactional memory).
Designing a realtime scam analysis tool with resource constraints is interesting enough to be greenlit but makes no money.
Once released, they'll move on to the next big challenge, and when nobody is there to maintain their work, it will be silently dropped by Google.
I'm willing to bet more than 70% of the Google graveyard comes from projects like these.
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