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[–] [email protected] 36 points 12 hours ago

Trust me, Google already knows your home address.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 13 hours ago

They don't even pretend it's for security reasons and just admit it's for ads 🀣

[–] muhyb 26 points 13 hours ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Aaaand now 1,337 other users can reset your password and steal your account.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 14 points 13 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 hours ago

We may not always have that option...

[–] [email protected] 12 points 14 hours ago

They use it for Google Maps as a pin. Nothing new, and not particularly weird either. You can just skip it and not tell them.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Just click skip? They just use it for traffic notifications on maps and stuff.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (2 children)

But at some point, there will be no skip button. You know it, I know it, we all know it. This is like the creepy uncle who starts out by giving you candy and playing football in the yard. Then he wants you to sit on his lap before candy or football, but you can jump off whenever, until the day, he won't let you. That is what these companies have been doing. I still remember the arm twisting they did when they took over youtube and we all liked youtube so much, we ended up giving in to it.

The end game for them is to own all your personal information and have total control over your online activity. Them giving you a skip button is a fake comfort. They probably already know where you live too.

For my part, I have just accepted that my basic bitch info is out there. Whatever I haven't shared myself, have been shared either by a phone book service in my country or by databrokers who have sold my info to random companies and scammers.

Anonymity online is an illusion unless you are a very tech savvy which most of us are not.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I was just thinking how much we've lost. Each generation grows up with this stuff being normalized by people saying "it's fine just skip it". But the early days of the internet was so much different compared to the people today.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

It took them less than a decade to make us accept this new order online. From 2010 to 2015 more or less.

Personally, I miss when online communities were places where you shared things you found online. I miss when it was a place where you could personalize your profiles and where people still enjoyed reading blogs and things like that.

I miss when the internet was for people and not for corporations.

It was scary back then too, with pedos, hackers and so on, but it does hit differently when corporations are in control of how we interact with one another and they get to set the rules for what they can demand of you before connecting you with their platforms.

I do hope that someday this corporate chokehold on the internet will collapse and we will see a revival of true free and creative "social media" like it used to be. I miss the blogs and the forums and the art sharing sites that didn't suck ass like they do nowadays.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Totally agree on the pre-2010 internet being more human. Now not only the platforms are centralized, half of the blogs you find are now AI generated incoherent garbage.

There is still good stuff, but now you have to work really hard to find it among AI slop, Ads, paywalls etc.

I hope the fediverse can establish a new form of the old internet. Lemmy instances are now the self hosted phpBB forums of this decade. And even on the corporate platforms there are some thriving niche communities.

Maybe it was just that the pre-2010 internet was driven primarily by nerds of some form. With the smartphone it went fully mainstream, and that broke it. It got streamlined and commodified and monetized to turn any kind of "engagement" into profits, instead of, well, just being a place where many random quirky people are doing their thing and sharing cool stuff.

Remember when "Homepage" was still a concept? Now I guess for most people it's their Instagram profile, or something like that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 hours ago

This is a very long comment when they definitely already know users addresses, lol

[–] [email protected] 7 points 15 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 14 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Whoa. We’re housemates!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 hours ago

Yeah, and they still owe us money for the electricity bill

[–] [email protected] 88 points 1 day ago (2 children)

You can skip that step. Not that it's okay, tho.

[–] [email protected] 67 points 1 day ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

Next year:

Sorry, your login looks suspicious. For your security, you've been permanently locked out of your account.

Since you never willingly gave us your address, you cannot submit a request to regain access to your account. Thank you for all the data. You cannot contact us. Have a nice day, dumbfuk

[–] [email protected] 20 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

not for now, but forever. they'd be in huge trouble with EU regulations should they ever dare to change it

[–] [email protected] 34 points 23 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 6 points 18 hours ago

They already force phone numbers in the EU.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

There are some people who will put this data, the ones who usually agree to all cookies. So even if you let users skip, with some dark patterns you can manage to influence a lot of people. Example: I set up local windows accounts for a couple of family members, yet somehow a week later or so they had online Microsoft accounts connected.

[–] [email protected] 65 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

More like asking you to confirm what they already know.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 23 hours ago

Yeah, ridiculous isn't it.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

It's been doing this for over a decade. It's used by maps to create automatic pins for home and work, for easier routing (and profit if course).

[–] [email protected] 21 points 21 hours ago

What kind of bullshit is this?

God, I dislike Google so much. Funny to remember that once their motto used to be, "Do no evil." Ha, good times.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 22 hours ago

Oh? Just what I was looking for! An opportunity to be manipulated more effectively by my owners.

You can change or remove this any time...

Haha, cute.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (3 children)

I mean this isn't new. How do you think you can say go to work or go home and have maps take you there.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 15 hours ago

Seeing this post made me realize I have fallen for this trap already.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

It's less creepy than asking "This is your home address, isn't it?"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

Yeh, not like they can't work it out.

(That said, they have no idea about my house number because I can't get them to understand the building I'm in has multiple houses in it....)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 20 hours ago

Yeah, pretty sure I remember clicking skip on this as many as 5 years ago. Google Maps has asked to store your home address for as long as I can remember.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

With your phone they already know it and where you are in every moment, if you don't desactivate GPS.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 hours ago

Unless you live in an apartment.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Bruh, I was testing some android features and wiped an android phone, then when I tried to log in again, they wanted a verification code from the previous device, the one I just wiped. Not even will a phone number satisfy them.

Its essentially locked out, unless I get a time machine to undo wiping the phone.

I mean, what happens if someone lose their phone and wants to log in to google to wipe their device? Like... how would you obtain the verification code on a phone a thief now has?

Its just even just privacy issues, Google is braindead when it come to their "security".

Luckily, I wiped it in settings so FRP was off.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

No, this is user error. It clearly strongly recommended you to print out your backup code when the MFA was enabled. If you forgot or ignored it and then wiped an important phone, that's on you.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Okay, so I attempted to access it again. Its currently in a weird state of partial access.

I can "log in" but as soon as I try to access anything, say, Gmail, I get that screen again.

This is what the settings page looks like:

So its not totally locked out, but its not functional either, I'm not even on a VPN.

Notice, 2FA is off.

Then I click Gmail and get this:

I tap "more ways to verify" and get this:

I tap the only option, and it circles back to the previous screen.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 20 hours ago

I like that when you come across one of the many Google dark patterns and complain about it, a fanboy always shows up out of nowhere to tell you it's impossible and you did something wrong.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 20 hours ago

I once had an issue logging in to Google where they wanted to verify me some way that I couldn't complete. I eventually got around it by going through the "Forgot Password" workflow instead of logging in normally. I have no idea if this still works or whether it will make things worse for you, but if all else fails it might be worth a try.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 22 hours ago

MFA was never enabled.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 20 hours ago

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