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> mfw I live in Walkable city
> want to walk around in it
> walkway is a fucking tiny narrow corridor of concrete
> be forced to walk between congested car traffic and escooters, with no pedestrian crossings anywhere
> get run over by some clueless skateboarder
My city is super walkable with great walking and biking infrastructure. Still get run over by some fuck on a bicycle or escooter on the sidewalk or zebra crossing.
I got hit by a car recently crossing a street. I'd rather get hit by an escooter.
Oh absolutely. Far less likely though*, since car drivers actually have accountability here. As soon as there's no fear of punishment, ppl will be assholes. I'd rather people don't be assholes. Also, one sidewalk cyclist broke my glasses and I couldn't afford new ones, another one hit me on a way where my hip still creaks years later. So again, I'd just rather every participant in traffic abides by the rules and doesn't endanger others, even if the danger isn't life threatening.
Agreed.
- Slower
- Squishier
just one more lane bro. I promise bro just one more lane and it'll fix everything bro. bro, just one more lane. please just one more, one more lane and we can fix this whole problem bro, bro cmon just give me one more lane i promise bro, bro bro please ! just need one more lane
You know what would actually fix traffic? TRAINS
Compromise: Steam trains.
Upvoted for Alan Fischer reference in the wild. His bits go so much harder than pretty much anyone else in urbanist youtube
Thanks for sharing, made me grin not gonna lie
Be happy that you can use an e-scooter or bike. Imagine being unable to use such a device, crappy public transport, and that in a city that cuts off cars...
IIRC this often comes up and actually removing cars generally helps people with disabilities. Sure you may always have a few exceptions, but disabled parking can still exist while everyone that is able bodied can walk.
Simply have good public transport
I would not mind. In the mean time, I skip that city and actually drive to the next city over and use their tram to get to the city center. Even though it is much farther, it is still quicker.
hwo do I get to walkable city and live there
The world is changing and so can yours. Ten years ago I tourists were always shooting videos of people biking to work. Today it's (somewhat) normal to them. Look at Paris.
Just have to be European. Live on the south coast in the UK and life is so easy here.
Check out Strong Towns. They're a policy advocacy group that's focused on helping people influence policy at the local level to make their towns livable again. I'm a part of my local strong towns group, and they're absolutely great. We're getting the ball rolling, organizing with other local activist groups, meeting with local politicians to understand our local challenges better, and all while receiving a lot of support from the mother ship organization. Meanwhile, our town isn't some metropolis, it's only 90,000 people.
If that isn't your thing, just start going to city council or county board of supervisor meetings and start making public comments there. It's a good way to meet with other policy advocates in your community and start networking with them.
Walking.
that solves the first part if I walk for like 4 days, but how do I live there short of being homeless?
Ah. Well, the problem is that we've made building new housing units nearly impossible through decades of unforced errors at the local level in nearly all of our cities, as well as bullshit ass zoning. It's not even remotely impossible to undo, but a lot of people don't recognize it as the root of the problem. Again, check out Strong Towns, we're working to walk these errors back and make our cities places that are built for people again.
- With regards to zoning, nobody in their right mind is asking to let DuPont put a rocket fuel factory next to an elementary school. Many zoning codes have really terrible and not evidence based practices codified, such as enforcing single family housing sprawl, ensuring that you MUST drive to go buy a loaf of bread, and requiring outrageous parking requirements often 2-3x over what's needed in practice.
Thanks, I'll look and see if theres a local chapter in my area. Ive been meaning to get more involved in local politics, its just hard to find a comfortable group of people to get in with in my experience. Would love to find out I can actually join people in something meaningful :)
This is probably one of the top ten most incredibly based pictures ever. I love it. Thank you for brightening my day, OP
Needs trees.
While, yes, it does, urban and suburban sprawl is far, far worse for trees. Go to your local Wal Mart super center and, not counting the garden center, tell me how many trees there are per acre in the parking lot. Now multiply that by every big box store and mile of stroad and highway.
I'm going to bike to a restaurant in 15 minutes after work today, maps says it takes cars 30 :)
My favourite thing to do is 'race' the person who offers me a ride home all the time. Like, I appreciate the offer but trust me, I will be home before you could get me there AND I'll get to enjoy the sunshine.
don't forget the 15 minutes looking for a parking spot and 10 minutes walking from the parking spot to the restaurant
Met my coworkers after work yesterday. 21 minute bike or car ride by the GPS. By the time they parked downtown it was 35 mins, meanwhile I shaved a minute off the GPS :) feels goooood
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All those escooters getting in the way of my walking.
Hey! I'm walking here.
Bought an eBike last weekend because I'd rather be soaked by rain than sitting in traffic to/from work. It feels damn good to finally be the person in an otherwise empty bike lane, passing countless cars that are going nowhere.
Party on, party on!
I love my ebike.
I've been big into bikes forever, but the ebike just makes it super convenient to bike to work.
Nah, cars certainly have their place, just a bike or scooter is way better downtown :)
That's supposed to be the consensus of the "fuck cars" movement, but the name certainly gives the impression of being completely against cars. When your eyes are opened to how car-centric infrastructure has taken over our societies it's hard not to be a bit reactive.
Yet the actual movement can be very extreme in their messaging.
I love bikes, I've spent my youth on them. But that place is just bunch of sad cunts circle jerking 80% of the time.
Its what antiwork And all these other type of places always ends up being... The most passionate drive out the by standers.
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Its what antiwork And all these other type of places always ends up being... The most passionate drive out the by standers.
Antiwork was founded by someone who genuinely wants to not have a job at all, and they got kicked out by a bunch of moderates who took over the community with milder messaging.
Unfortunately, every time I see something from that community it's just vehicular hate-jerking
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Bingo, though the r*ddit fuckcars certainly took the name literally which has given the one here something of an inherited reputation to shake free of.
I love cars and would likely continue to own them even if I no longer needed them day to day. That's vilified on the other site but seems fine here, as it should be.
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Motorists hate this one simple trick
me when I cycle to school on rush hour instead of picking the car (I know I'll be stuck if I do)
make the overhead train a 12 lane freeway and it's any random metrohell in texas. paths right next to frontage roads, a mile+ walk just to get from one side of the freeway to the other--safely.
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