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Now I understand why at each windows 11 update, they introduce more bugs than ever

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 hours ago

Government spyware finally has a challenger for the title of "primary reason that most Microsoft software runs like hot garbage".

[–] [email protected] 55 points 6 hours ago (11 children)

So the CEO is trying to tell investors that they are saving money by not paying employees. But to me it sounds more like: we are letting our sub-par products continue to enshitify, and any other company using AI to program will be equal competition.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 20 minutes ago

I think he's trying to say that their AI writes code good enough for Microsoft. Which is a message to other business leaders that your company too can benefit from copilot, just hand over your credit card!

Microsoft has absolutely gotten worse in the consumer space, but that isn't really their business these days.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

this makes way more sense than hundreds of shitty devs.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 hours ago

Even their AI crashes all the time, its brutal.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 hours ago

this is why I get so much business as a IT consultant lol

[–] [email protected] 19 points 7 hours ago

We know Microsoft.

Hardly possible not to noticce..

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

“Written by software” does not inherently mean AI.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 42 minutes ago

I vaguely remember talk about companies like Google having software that fixes/writes code and that was ages before LLMs.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 hours ago

Well that explains a lot

[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 hours ago

Boy am I glad not having to touch their software.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago

Year of the Linux desktop

(Amusing sidenote: my autocomplete's first suggestion after 'Linux' was 'propaganda'.)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago

Sure as hell feels like it!

[–] [email protected] 35 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

Everybody saying this is why their products are shit are really confusing me. It's not like Microsoft just started being terrible. They've been terrible for a real long time. Way before AI was a thing. This is just a symptom of Microsoft's awfulness not a reason for it.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 7 hours ago

Ok, it's like this.
Ms used to release shitty stuff. And they'll continue to release shitty stuff except now it'll be 30% more shitty.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 hours ago

The AI is not the reason their software is bad, but their software is bad for the same reason they’re claiming to use AI to write it.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

There were alpha versions of windows 8 with less glaring/annoying bugs than windows 11, though

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (5 children)

My windows 11 gaming machine has done all manner of fucky stuff, including permanently losing desktop icons seemingly at random and just whole ass refusing to open the file explorer for six months.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

And 100% of their product names are generated by AI. No human would be stupid enough to change something's name for zero reason.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 hours ago

No human would be stupid enough to change something’s name for zero reason.

Well, unless you're a product manager at Google apparently... Though with them you're lucky if its just a change of name rather than it becoming an entirely "new" thing, or just getting outright axed...

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

That's why their products are so crappy!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 hours ago

What? There products have long been shit ever before AI was even a thing.

Anyone remember windows ME? I sure as fuck do.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 hours ago

No way, they get their results through honest effort. Anyone can make crappy AI products now, but Microsoft have been doing crappy products the hard way for decades. Don't downplay their hard work !

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 hours ago

50% of my code is written by Intellisense...

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

If they start with those products today with zero marketing budged and zero user base nobody would use it. Those CEOs are just clowns.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 hours ago

Even worse, whenever a good new technology does pop up they buy it and ruin it.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (2 children)

Windows hate train looks fun, but as someone who works in the industry, most of that code is probably just unit tests and boilerplate stuff.

Copilot is decent at quickly writing huge amounts of mostly correct, tedious unit test code, depending on your language/framework. And since Microsoft works with languages like C# and .NET for their native apps, and likely backend too, there is quite a bit of verbosity that Copilot can take care of. Also, documentation might count as well.

No real code is AI-generated. He's just saying shit like this to keep idiot investors happy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 24 minutes ago

Thanks for the context

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Isn’t that the problem tho. He’s the CEO of Microsoft which is supposed to be a bight end technology firm saying bullshit

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 minutes ago

Operations are one thing, but investors are another. The latter don't know the sector, but they want profits.

So you have to convince them not to interfere with your activities, because they can make things worse.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 31 points 12 hours ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 hours ago

Beat me to it.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 12 hours ago

Code written by software doesn't mean AI unless you ignore compilers

Executives lie to boost profits and justify their decisions, I doubt MS execs even know how much of their code is AI generated just like the ad sales company exec they were talking to in the article

[–] [email protected] 20 points 13 hours ago

This makes sense and would explain the mainline windows versioning and probably the xbox versioning too!

Microsoft to AI: List all the integers from one to eleven.

AI: 3. 95. 98. 2000. XP. Vista. 7. 8. 10. 11.

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